New 700 Series

[michaelw]

That's not a cedar top. It's engelman spruce.

hi doug,
actually, it is cedar top, rather than engelmann, on that particular guitar (it was a 'top-swap') -
it was noted on the tag also & if i'd brought something better than my cell phone to snap a pic
(i didn't go in to look for any specific guitar, i actually didn't plan on looking at all), i'd have taken a
close-up of the lightest part of the burst ... it smelled like cedar (sweet), with the tone to match, imho

congrats on the future DN7e
i'm glad that 6 & 7 DNs were added to the
acoustic non-cutaway line this year ... very cool 

[Doug T]

Wow! That's unusual for such a new model.  I do know that my DN-7e will have an engelman top. I will post pics when it arrives.  Hopefully just a couple weeks more.

[michaelw]

Wow! That's unusual for such a new model.  I do know that my DN-7e will have an engelman top. I will post pics when it arrives.  Hopefully just a couple weeks more.

i guess that perhaps some of the first run of 700 series had a mix
of engelmann & cedar tops - found a cedar top 716ce over here
http://www.myfavoriteguitars.com/product.php?productid=16719&cat=0&page=1

looking forward to the pics of your DN7e &
i hope the next 2 weeks are 'short ones'

[jrporter]

I'll play the devil's advocate and ask if there's really enough of a difference between the 7 and 8-series guitars to justify having a totally separate series...

[Scriptor]

I'll play the devil's advocate and ask if there's really enough of a difference between the 7 and 8-series guitars to justify having a totally separate series...

As they are right now, IMO, yes ... different bracing, different appointments, different look, Englemann rather than Sitka ... to me, the new 2012 models offer more of a contrast to the 800 series than they did before ..

[Roseadi]

... to me, the new 2012 models offer more of a contrast to the 800 series than they did before ..

Wow Scriptor, that's saying something. I always found a BIG difference in the 7's (with cedar) and the 8's. And that was before the CV bracing change in the 8's!

Looks like I've got to get out and try the new models this week end.

[jrporter]

I'm a fan of the new 700 series. It's pretty darn close to what I'd build myself if I did a BTO. It's probably good for my wallet that they don't come in non-cutaway, non-ES versions.

That's a bummer....

[michaelw]

I'll play the devil's advocate and ask if there's really enough of a difference between the 7 and 8-series guitars to justify having a totally separate series...

As they are right now, IMO, yes ... different bracing, different appointments, different look, Englemann rather than Sitka ... to me, the new 2012 models offer more of a contrast to the 800 series than they did before ..

i agree that there's is a discernable difference between the 7 & 8s &
has been tonally since 09 with the 7s being engelmann or cedar with
Standard II bracing & 8s sitka with CV, & in 07-08 with both models
having different tops/grades of rosewood & Standard II bracing

from examples that i've played & heard, to me there is a difference in the wood
grades used & they seemed to be matched to make the tonal characteristics distinct.
which was also present in the pre-Standard II models & more accentuated with CV

are different series necessary
in the acoustic non-cutaway series prior to CV in 09, imho, perhaps not, but
it was more in-line & consistent with the 700/800 CE acoustic electric series,
which has had a very recognizable difference in aesthetics from beginning

a 9 series, with ab top & fretboard extension, rosewood binding, Gotohs & bone nut/saddle would
seem  to be next logical progression, but perhaps more players would opt to 'modify-a-model' &
add the Gotohs & bone nut/saddle & although wood upgrades (aa or premium), adi CV & adi or
redwood tops would be nice options to have, i think that BTO serves these needs & others very well

imho, it would be nice to be able to order a BTO jumbo to the same specs as a standard model
at the same $ points & the 500/900 series in an acoustic non-cutaway, no e configuration as well,
for the same $ as the 500/900 series, minus cutaway & e charges (a la legacy models), rather
than having the $ exceed the cost of an acoustic electric (CE) model for an acoustic no c, no e ...
however, this would add a potential 50 more models to cover it & i doubt that would be realistic

[jrporter]

I'll play the devil's advocate and ask if there's really enough of a difference between the 7 and 8-series guitars to justify having a totally separate series...

As they are right now, IMO, yes ... different bracing, different appointments, different look, Englemann rather than Sitka ... to me, the new 2012 models offer more of a contrast to the 800 series than they did before ..

Didn't realize that these changes had taken place for 2012. My frame of reference has been the non-cutaway/non-pickup models, and I just wish that Taylor would A) Lower the price on the 5-8 series models and B) Make these more readily available....

[Gutch]

The new 700 series 12 fret nylon is just sick...  I'm actually GASing pretty hard for that one... 

[Igniten]

Well, i took The trip to test both The old one with cedar and The new with engelman.

Ended up with The new one with Engelman. What can i say. I just spoke to me. A bit more clarity than The cedar, and definetley not so bright as my 814.

[michaelw]

Well, i took The trip to test both The old one with cedar and The new with engelman.

Ended up with The new one with Engelman. What can i say. I just spoke to me. A bit more clarity than The cedar, and definetley not so bright as my 814.

sweet

congrats on the 2012 714ce engelmann, Igniten
very

play on

[ataylor]

Well, i took The trip to test both The old one with cedar and The new with engelman.

Ended up with The new one with Engelman. What can i say. I just spoke to me. A bit more clarity than The cedar, and definetley not so bright as my 814.

Nice! Now it's time for a NGD post with photos...

[Igniten]

Did not take a chance on transporting it on The plane.
Hopefully it should arrive tomorrow.  Will be posting pics first chance i get.

[D35 Dread]

Hi all. I am considering one of the new 714ce models. I was really impressed by the low end and visually the guitar is a knock out. Here is a pic I took in the local guitar shop last night:



PS Apologies for the blurry picture.