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ctkarslake

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suspicious Taylor 712-C
« on: March 10, 2012, 04:04:05 PM »
These folks probably have no clue what this is but it is definitely not what they say it is.  You gotta love the wonky pickguard, TRC and the one piece plywood-looking back.  Strangely enough the headstock inlay looks pretty good.  Maybe only the neck is authentic?  I've only seen one faked Taylor before.  What do you guys and gals think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1990-Taylor-Acoustic-Guitar-Model-712-C-/160759855517?pt=Guitar&hash=item256e08b99d#ht_6753wt_932

weird I say. :o
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 04:06:33 PM »

Wow....that 712c hurt my eyes....
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 04:10:15 PM »
Odd looking body for a GC, odd looking wood, odd looking cut away.  I sure would be interested in what the serial number is, but then there is not one I'll bet.
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 04:13:08 PM »
Haha, that's great! I'd agree though, the neck does look original...  :)
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 04:23:14 PM »
Quote from: mgap on March 10, 2012, 04:10:15 PM
Odd looking body for a GC, odd looking wood, odd looking cut away.  I sure would be interested in what the serial number is, but then there is not one I'll bet.

The serial number was mentioned in the ad:
"The serial number is 14030, found deep inside were the neck and body meet, I was unable to photograph."
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 04:28:53 PM »
Not even for a boat paddle. It's got a hole in it. ::)Steve
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 04:37:12 PM »
to me, it looks like a 91 710c, which had the Dan Crary signature model cutaway contour
non original truss cover & tuners buttons (especially the small button)
non-original pickguard
'altered, poor condition' ovation case ???

what would concern me is it looks like the back has been replaced with a single
piece of wood (no centerstrip purfling) & the body looks like it's been re-bound -
in the picture of the back, it looks like the neck heel (cap) is tilted to the right

it's a far cry from this one ;)
http://gratefulguitars.com/1990Taylor710C.htm
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 05:05:13 PM »
Looks like someone's school project. ha-ha-ha.  Wonder who bought it?   Bill

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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 05:57:15 PM »
Quote from: Bill Evans on March 10, 2012, 05:05:13 PM
Looks like someone's school project. ha-ha-ha.  Wonder who bought it?   Bill
wasn't me :)
this was a school project ... not mine, but the kid that built it was named 'Robert' ;)

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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2012, 09:19:50 PM »
The auction has been ended without a sale. In addition to what others have said, the finish looked suspicious, too. It's definitely not gloss on the back and sides, which is what one would expect.
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 12:02:52 AM »
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 04:16:44 AM »
Surely someone should contact the seller and challenge their description? It is so obviously NOT an original! There must be some law which should prevent the seller advertising it like that?   Bill
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ctkarslake

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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 09:07:06 AM »
That serial #14030 doesn't check out far as I can tell, going from the Taylor website. I contacted them with my concerns and they sent back to me this:

"Hi, Thank you for this information. I have pulled my add and am doing more research. This is a pawn shop and I am not a musician. I went with the information given to me when the guitar was pawned. Thanks, again, Denise at Trader Stan."

One thing's for sure it's back up with basically the same info as before.
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 10:48:33 AM »
for 91, the label is where it should be & it is a valid serial #
http://taylorguitars.us/guitars/reference/dating.html
i feel that the seller is unaware of the original specs of the guitar,
which it would be easy enough to find the information on the internet

based on the other items that are for auction & have been sold in the past,
i don't think that musical instruments are an area they are most knowledgeable in

the squier strat signed by Slayer has a more accurate description, though :)
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Re: suspicious Taylor 712-C
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 11:22:25 AM »
Looks like someone tried toi build their own DCSM...
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