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dswo

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Discrete tuners?
« on: September 29, 2021, 07:15:24 PM »
I have a few of these:



But it's secured to the headstock with a screw that goes through the tuning machine. My Taylor 314ce doesn't have such a screw, at least not one that's accessible. I'm not quibbling with Taylor's design, but is there a similar that will work with Taylor's hardware?

I already have several clip-ons (and the current Taylor clip-on tracks very well, better than this D'Addario.) I'm just looking for something (a) discrete that (b) you can leave on the guitar.
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sstaylor58

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2021, 08:37:34 AM »
D’addario makes one that clips inside the soundhole. You only see a little half circle on the top. I use one in both my Taylor’s. They work well and are fairly non-intrusive. If you google soundhole guitar tuner I’m sure they will come up . Thanks.
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Martin Custom OM-15
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dswo

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2021, 08:47:59 AM »
D’addario makes one that clips inside the soundhole. You only see a little half circle on the top. I use one in both my Taylor’s. They work well and are fairly non-intrusive. If you google soundhole guitar tuner I’m sure they will come up . Thanks.

I've seen those and thought, "Won't that dampen the soundboard?" Any consensus on whether that's true?

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2021, 09:24:35 AM »
They footprint of where they clamp on is tiny. I’ve noticed no effect whatsoever on the sound.
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Martin Custom OM-15
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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2021, 10:07:39 AM »
They work well and weigh practically nothing.  It is hard to imagine these tuners affecting the sound perceptibly.  I added two to my last big string order.  But as you discovered Taylor does not use screws to anchor the tuning machine, so mine went onto other guitars.  D’Addario uses the same tuner module with various interchangeable  “feet” - some have the ear for the screw as pictured, others have the ratcheting clip to grab the sound hole edge.  I’ve even seen an installation where the lug was sanded off flush and Velcro was used to stick the tuner inside.

The other model with the clip lives on my ukulele peg head.
Taylors:  424-LTD (all koa) and a 114ce that lives with friends in Alaska.  Low maintenance carbon fiber guitars are my "thing" these days, but I will always keep the koa 424.  Several ukulele and bass guitars too. 
*Gone but not forgotten:  a 2001 414ce, 410, 354-LTD twelve string, 314-N, 416-LTD baritone, T5 Classic, 615ce, 2006 GS-K, 1996 (first year) Baby

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2021, 11:10:05 AM »
This is what I’m talking about, they work well.
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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2021, 11:31:34 AM »
Here ya go: https://www.daddario.com/products/accessories/tuners/micro-headstock-tuner/

Yeah, it's the same tuner as the one in the first post, but the clip version.  But here's the plus: clip it on with the tuner behind the headstock as opposed to the front like they picture it.  I've done it this way for years: and the same for snarks where the black snark is very discrete, but this D'Addario Micro tuner is basically invisible from the front's pov.

Side note: while I personally prefer the snark for its better display and a bit (tiny bit, but noticeable) better tracking, I do have the Micro tuner on two of my acoustics and a tele that never get removed, as well as my son who does the same ..smart kid ;)

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2021, 08:20:17 PM »
This is what I’m talking about, they work well.

That looks really cool.

I'm afraid I would knock that sucker off. I can strum pretty hard at times.
I'm always knocking my volume, and pickup selector switches on my electrics.
I Can't play a Strat for that reason. I must move the volume pot...




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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2021, 06:07:35 PM »
This is what I’m talking about, they work well.

That looks really cool.

I'm afraid I would knock that sucker off. I can strum pretty hard at times.
I'm always knocking my volume, and pickup selector switches on my electrics.
I Can't play a Strat for that reason. I must move the volume pot...

I strum hard too, so far no issues. Have these on both my 314 and GS mini.
Taylor 314ce
Taylor GS Mini Mahogany
Martin Custom OM-15
Yamaha FSX730SC
Yamaha FSX800C

dswo

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2021, 10:22:17 AM »
Thank you to all who made suggestions and offered perspective.

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Re: Discrete tuners?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2021, 10:58:09 AM »
One really cool feature is the "rotate" button (center button on the posted picture).  You can clip it to the back of the headstock and then rotate to the display to read correctly from your viewpoint.  And the tuner remembers that orientation when it turns on again.  It can be easy to confuse the rotate and on/off button by feel on a dark stage, but you get used to that.  I use these tuners and like them. 

I also have Snarks in various flavors, and my old standby the Intelli IMT-500.  Glad I bought a full case of ten years ago, and none have died yet.  I keep a tuner in each instrument case, along with a capo, strap, picks, and spare strings.
Taylors:  424-LTD (all koa) and a 114ce that lives with friends in Alaska.  Low maintenance carbon fiber guitars are my "thing" these days, but I will always keep the koa 424.  Several ukulele and bass guitars too. 
*Gone but not forgotten:  a 2001 414ce, 410, 354-LTD twelve string, 314-N, 416-LTD baritone, T5 Classic, 615ce, 2006 GS-K, 1996 (first year) Baby