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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 07:42:55 AM »
Cool stuff, Michael! I have to go back and read it again later!
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 07:55:08 AM »
Thanks for the link Michael. Interesting read.

I'm looking forward to test driving a new 810.

It appears the new 800 Series Grand Auditorium is a cutaway model only?? No 814 or 814e?

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 08:28:20 AM »
Glad to see the 812 make an appearance!

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 08:30:40 AM »
Thanks for posting this illuminating article.  I wonder how hard Bob swallowed to admit his guitars will get better under Andy.
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 09:13:12 AM »
This is the information from the source we were wating for! Thank you Michael! It little hard to read when you just bought a few months ago an 812. However beautiful that one is... But only thumbs up for Andy P. Hope I am able to play his new series soon.
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 09:37:31 AM »
I wondered about those that recently bought an 800 series, as I have been looking for an 812 but I kind of feel like the previous 800 series was a "Bob Taylor" model and the new series is an "Andy Powers" model. Doesn't mean better, just different.

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 09:54:38 AM »
I wondered about those that recently bought an 800 series, as I have been looking for an 812 but I kind of feel like the previous 800 series was a "Bob Taylor" model and the new series is an "Andy Powers" model. Doesn't mean better, just different.
that's my take on it too &, on paper, i'm personally not too thrilled about the near
medium G & medium B & e, although it might be alright on 24 7/8" scale or 12 fret -
once there's an option for a 814c 12-fret & solid headstock ... oh boy :-\ :o

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 10:20:16 AM »
Thanks for posting this illuminating article.  I wonder how hard Bob swallowed to admit his guitars will get better under Andy.
i'll bet it didn't bother Bob one bit, because he knew he was needing to look for someone & already acknowledged where Andy excels -
i thought i remember reading somewhere that when Bob met/signed Andy something to the effect that "i hired a younger me."

if anything, if there is the ol' lump in the throat is because he's proud of Andy, what he's accomplished & deep down
Bob knows he made the right choice - knows the history of guitars, self taught, 20 years experience at less than 30 :o

chris wellons & ed granero are a big piece of puzzle at Taylor also & i'll bet shannon &
his team have worked their fingers to the bone, especially on this part of the website 8)
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 10:45:14 AM »
Great article.  It really drives home the point of the change at the helm.  Bold move with the 800 series - I like it!  And I am one who bought an 814ce a little over a year ago.  I am not disappointed that "I may have bought too soon"... my 814 thrills my hands, ears, and heart.  The curly maple binding is a beautiful accent, set off against the tobacco sunburst on mine.  That said, I like the look of the clear maple with the new 800s, too.  A Bob Taylor "classic," and now an Andy Powers take on the classic.

As a business owner, it makes sense to promote any changes as "better."  I will look forward to trying one of the new 812s when they hit the stores.  After buying a RainSong Shorty last summer, I am a big fan of that size and the 12 fret.

Looks to me like Taylor has another hit!

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2014, 11:26:34 AM »
  Just did the factory tour this past Monday. Never, never go on a holiday. There was so many people there that they had to break it into 3 groups. I was in the first group and it felt rushed, to stay ahead of the second group.
  Was really impressed with the new 800's. They were all very Taylor like, but better. The GC is one fantastic sounding guitar.
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2014, 11:59:39 AM »
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Agreed. What bothers me is that it locks the buyer into forever purchasing the custom gauged ($$$) Elixer PBs, or else putting together custom sets of strings in order to make the guitar play as it was designed. What if I don't happen to like Elixer PBs and want Pearse PBs or something else? Very strange decision from Andy.

And dang, those are some pretty hefty prices to go with the new improvements! I love my five Taylors to death, but if I had that kind of coin to spend on a new guitar I'd be looking at boutiques or even a custom build from a smaller builder. But then again, I don't know what the prices were on the old 800 series so maybe the prices on the new models are in line.

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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2014, 12:10:12 PM »
Great link michaelw, thanks for that. I had the pleasure of playing both the brand new 814ce and 816ce guitars last Friday in one of Taylor's demo rooms so I got a real good long listen. I can say the redesign is not just marketing, there is clearly an audible difference. Having played many of these models in the past, I felt that they both had an improved tone over their predecessors. The first thing I noticed is that they have a lighter feel in your arms and they feel and sound as if they are more delicate instruments than past model years. Of course they still feel like quality built instruments but just slightly less robust than I remember. I am curious to see how they will hold up as the years go by. That was the only drawback I could find.

I've always liked the GA shape for comfort and playability but in the past, I'd always wished it had a bit more bass. That has changed, the new 814 has better bass response and more volume. Imagine the sound of something between last years 814 and 816 models but a tad more lively and that is how I think of the new 814. The 816 is my preference out of the two and the redesign gives the GS an even more lively of a sound. They sported the "marbled" ebony fingerboards and I've got to say that, while I'm no Taylor apologist when it comes to the "marbled/striped ebony" debate, the fingerboard that was on the 816ce made me a convert, I've got to admit, I really liked that pattern of browns on this particular fingerboard and would prefer it over a solid black board. It also got me thinking something about the new rosewood pickguard, there seems to be an aesthetic to a rosewood pickguard when combined with a "marbled" fingerboard, perhaps this was also the thinking when they went to it? I would not be surprised if that was the case.

At the risk of going off topic, I also got to play an 818e that was hands down the winner over anything else I played that day. I don't know much about it except it sounded incredible.


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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2014, 01:33:53 PM »
Nice to be able to modify an iconic model such as the 814 because of research and inspiration instead of dire necessity (to wit the Martin D-28 which was gradually stripped of many key original elements).
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Re: new 800 series
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2014, 04:44:06 PM »
Great info.  I'm looking forward to test driving a few when they make it to the mid-west.