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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 03:47:23 PM »
Cigarfan,

Yes, I was able to play all three '18's on Tuesday. The 918e was considerably pricier and I have rosewood covered in various combinations and makers (Collings, Froggy Bottom, Goodall) so it had to blow my socks off to make the cut. The bass of the 618 really surprised me as well as the balance. I have a Gibby J-200 and the rumbling bass is my favorite aspect, but I'd not call it well balanced. The 518e sounded like a great mahogany/Sitka guitar with extra bass. I went back yesterday figuring it was 60/40 that I'd go for the 518e (the 918e had already been sold). I played it first, said this is really nice, then played the 618e and the bass rumble just surprised me again. Played them both a couple of times, had the sales person play them in the practice room then in the middle of the store and the maple just had a more "enveloping" sound to my ears. I said "I really like the 518e but I'll buy the 618e".

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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 04:33:40 PM »
Thanks for your reply and the cool story. I had my reasons for going with the 618. Looks like I may have scooted out with the most popular first edition just by luck. Enjoy yours. I think in 5 years or so we are going to be downright flabbergasted.
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 07:27:44 PM »
Hey Cigarfan I noticed over at AGF that you were kicking around the idea of trying a set of lights on your 618. While I realize it will be some time, please post your review over here too. I'd be interested in hearing you take on them. Thanks.
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2013, 07:50:50 PM »
Hey Cigarfan I noticed over at AGF that you were kicking around the idea of trying a set of lights on your 618. While I realize it will be some time, please post your review over here too. I'd be interested in hearing you take on them. Thanks.

Definitely will share when that happens. I'm curious too. I tried lights on my GS and I was disappointed with the results. A significant reduction in volume and the richness I had come to enjoy so much. My hope is the new bracing scheme on the GO that yields such nice tone from a light touch may allow it to work well with lights. We'll see.
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
Hey Cigarfan I noticed over at AGF that you were kicking around the idea of trying a set of lights on your 618. While I realize it will be some time, please post your review over here too. I'd be interested in hearing you take on them. Thanks.

Definitely will share when that happens. I'm curious too. I tried lights on my GS and I was disappointed with the results. A significant reduction in volume and the richness I had come to enjoy so much. My hope is the new bracing scheme on the GO that yields such nice tone from a light touch may allow it to work well with lights. We'll see.

Yes, it would be great to hear your review once you try out some light strings! Please don't forget us, cigarfan! ;D
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2013, 08:31:41 PM »
Yes, it would be great to hear your review once you try out some light strings! Please don't forget us, cigarfan! ;D

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2013, 03:46:54 PM »
Changed the strings on my new 618e just for grins (and requests) to determine what effect light strings may have on attack, tone, volume and sustain. The results were pretty much what I expected. Less volume, less sustain and tone is not nearly as rich. It still responds very well with a light attack. But let me put this in perspective ...

Without consideration of tonewoods (cause that would be in the too-hard-box), my old GS was louder and throatier (is that a word?) than my GA. I could feel the bass notes more than with the GA (like in my torso). Both have the wonderful Taylor tone with the nice round trebles with shimmer at the higher frequencies. I would say the GS tended a little more toward the bass side. Medium gauge strings on the GS and light gauge on the GA.

Along comes the GO and it is strong. I mean strong like you can feel it has muscles! More bass (even in maple) than the GS but this incredible balance bass to treble. Every note clear and round. And it takes very little physical effort (light touch) to get the sweet spot. Medium gauge strings on the GO.

When I changed to light strings the GO now has bass about the level of the GS but still better than the GA. The volume, projection and sustain is reduced ... more like the GA than the GS. Tone is still excellent and the light touch is still sufficient to get the top moving. Obviously it is easier to fret. Bottom line ... I could leave it this way and have a GA sounding guitar with a little more bass. Nah, I think I'm gonna re-string with the mediums and get that big rich voice back.

I think at the next string change I may try the light-mediums where the 4th to 6th strings are sized like mediums and the 1st to 3rd are like the lights. That will be a while.

So there you have it. Not really a surprise for me. I had a similar experience when I put lights on the GS. Easier to play but a reduction in overall sound. I put mediums back on my GS too.

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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2013, 04:50:24 PM »
cigarfan, thanks for the detailed response. :) I would guess that Taylor designed the GO based on using medium strings especially with its larger soundboard and overall body size. Your GO sounds like an impressive guitar. Enjoy! ;D
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2013, 02:03:41 PM »
I realized today that I didn't post pictures of a couple things.

First, the nice "First Edition" plate on the case.



Then, I found this little gem inside the case compartment. Thought it was cool. Not sure what the numbers mean. They are in Spanish.



And just to prove those numbers are in spanish, there was this little buggar on the outside of the case at the lowerbout side.

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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2013, 02:32:26 PM »
The numbers are probably for internal use and the 'A1' could correspond to First Edition.

Sweetwater shows cases starting with '300'.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search.php?s=taylor+guitar+case

An ID tag makes sense, as the GA, GS and GO cases could get mixed up rather easily, especially after the First Editions are done.

The blue and white sticker is for the benefit of those whose first language is English.

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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2013, 06:19:38 PM »
I realize I'm a bit late here, but wanted to say congrats on the the new 618 - I was so preoccupied with your Ziricote build that I missed this one - hope you're having fun with your new big boy!
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2013, 08:12:13 PM »
I realize I'm a bit late here, but wanted to say congrats on the the new 618 - I was so preoccupied with your Ziricote build that I missed this one - hope you're having fun with your new big boy!

No worries. It's all good. The Ziricote is still in Brad's shop. He was having some challenges with binding the headstock. He hopes to have it sent out for finish soon.

In the meantime Taylor goes and releases the Grand Orchestra. Go figure. So I see and hear these big ol' beautiful Taylors and couldn't resist. <Sigh>
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2013, 03:46:52 PM »
Hey Cigarfan,
Just a curious detail in that the serial # of your GO begins with "11", do you know why that would be?  Since it's a 2013, and awfully early in the year, could it be that your guitar was made in 2011?  Maybe the answer is obvious since I don't think Taylor would change up the serial #s meaning for the GO.  Hmmm...
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2013, 04:21:02 PM »
Hey Cigarfan,
Just a curious detail in that the serial # of your GO begins with "11", do you know why that would be?  Since it's a 2013, and awfully early in the year, could it be that your guitar was made in 2011?  Maybe the answer is obvious since I don't think Taylor would change up the serial #s meaning for the GO.  Hmmm...

From what I read the Taylor 10 digit serial number breaks down as:
1st digit - Factory
2nd digit - 3rd digit of the year
3rd & 4th digit - 2 digit month
5th & 6th digit - 2 digit day
7th digit - 4th digit of the year
8th, 9th & 10th digit - 3 digit production schedule #

So my serial number 1112042076 means born on December 4th, 2012 at El Cajon and was the 76th guitar produced that day. 

The label clearly shows it is a 2013 First Edition.
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Re: NGD - 2013 Taylor 618e First Edition
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 02:26:17 PM »
Found a real nice surprise waiting for me today when I got to my mailbox.   ;D

The extra goodies promised by Taylor to all GO First Edition buyers (First Edition Book, Certificate of Authenticity and special strap).

A really nice touch.


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