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Guitar Cowboy

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Recommendations for headset mic system ?
« on: August 08, 2018, 03:17:24 PM »
I am relatively new to gigging  ( about 1/2 dozen so far,  1 to 3 hours) and struggle a little bit with  keeping close to the mic, checking my songbook when needed ( chords / start of next verse) , and occasionally  checking the position of my fretting hand for chords that are less than fully automatic. So I am thinking about getting a headset microphone to give myself a little freedom. I have absolutely no experience with these things. I currently use a Shure SM 58  on a  boom in front of my guitar stool. I know the real answer is learn your songs so you don't need the book  and learn to play without ever needing to look at your fretting hand. Realistically, those are both a ways off. Any recommendations?
Steve
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Re: Recommendations for headset mic system ?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 11:51:54 AM »
I am relatively new to gigging  ( about 1/2 dozen so far,  1 to 3 hours) and struggle a little bit with  keeping close to the mic, checking my songbook when needed ( chords / start of next verse) , and occasionally  checking the position of my fretting hand for chords that are less than fully automatic. So I am thinking about getting a headset microphone to give myself a little freedom. I have absolutely no experience with these things. I currently use a Shure SM 58  on a  boom in front of my guitar stool. I know the real answer is learn your songs so you don't need the book  and learn to play without ever needing to look at your fretting hand. Realistically, those are both a ways off. Any recommendations?

Hey Steve,
Congrats for "getting out there" man!  It's tough, and we truly are our own toughest critic ...kudos to you for just doing it, sir!!  It can get seriously unnerving at times, but we become all the better for it!!  :)

Since you asked for advice, I will respond with: you answered you own question. :)
Yessir, practice till you know em cold ...so cold you can start from anywhere in the song and pick it up, vocally or musically, reverse verses, start with the chorus, stone-cold nail it.  Only when you get this familiar (dare I say autopilot) with a song can you start feeling more relaxed so that you can focus on mic technique.

Being on/off axis, your proximity, your volume all affect your tone and dynamics a lot ...a lot.  And you use these variables as much as you would in your pick attack, going to bare fingers or pick, palm muting, etc ...your voice is an instrument that works with the mic, and you have to hear it for yourself to know what you want to change.  Think of your mic technique as akin to setting up an effects pedal: no one would just plug it in and stomp on/off right out of the box in front of an audience: you try different settings to arrive at the tone and effect that you wanted in your head before you even bought the thing.  That's what you want to do with your mic.  Don't think of "mic technique" as what's right/wrong as much as what your position sounds like through the system.

So there you go: after you nail down the song/s, setup your rig in your home exactly as you would on stage, and practice with the focused intent to judge what comes from the speakers.  Turn it up louder than normal so you hear the system as opposed to your own guitar/voice naturally.  You are totally fine keeping your 58, not to mention a headset mic is just another mic that you'd have to "learn" so you are truly no better off.  As you already know, there is no quick fix for playing guitar, so "working the mic" really is the same.  But you're almost there, man!  Anyone with the gonads to get up in front of strangers to play already has the fortitude to be self critical toward learning the other aspects of performing.  Keep rockin it, friend ...and chime back with your thoughts!!  :D

Edward

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Re: Recommendations for headset mic system ?
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 11:57:28 AM »
I hear a lot of good things about the headset that Garth Brooks uses. Its a Crown CM-311A Headset Microphone.  It looks  a little bulky to me.

That being said, Edward was right... it takes a certain technique to use one of these things.  Like being able to "pull away" from the mic during loud passages of vocals, etc.  I'm sure that someone like Garth has an engineer on the mixing board that that rides his levels as he sings, so it's probably not an issue for him.

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Re: Recommendations for headset mic system ?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 11:36:59 AM »
Thank you both for the good advice. I think I will tread slowly here. While it will be awhile before I can go without the music book, I did make some positioning changes that have made things a bit easier. Thanks Again !!!
Steve
2020 326ce V-class soundhole cutaway prototype
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2019 814ce V-Class (Cedar/Rosewood)
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2014 K26ce (AA Koa- Wildwood CV) 
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Re: Recommendations for headset mic system ?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 07:16:25 PM »
I can tell you what I use, and I can tell you what would be better.  I currently use a Shure BLX system (which is great, because you can get a dual channel receiver to cover both your vox and your guitar) with a Sennheiser ME3 mic.  I'd be better off with a Countryman mic, but I already had 2 of the Sennheiser mics when the bodypack died.  It was cheaper to buy a new system than replace the bodypack.
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