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theonemanband

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Mini tuner buttons
« on: October 18, 2016, 04:57:06 AM »
Hi, can anyone help please?

Does anyone know where I can obtain some small (Chrome or Amber) round or kidney bean type buttons for the (Ping) mini tuners on my T5z-12 classic?
Whilst the tuners fitted ARE minis (Ping, I believe) I have found the buttons are quite large which, together with the shorter headstock on the T5z-12, means the tuners are much closer together, making them awkward to use, particularly with a string winder!
I have fitted Wilkinson EZ lock mini locking tuners to my T5s-12 and was hoping to fit the same to the T5z-12, but the slightly shorter headstock, combined with the 45 degree set screw angle (on these and MOST other brands of tuner) means they will not fit the smaller T5z-12. The smaller buttons on the Wilkinsons will also not fit the shaft of the Pings and so unfortunately, are not interchangeable.
Grover minis DO have a 90 degree set screw angle which would be okay, but alas, also have a large buttons, so no point in doing that!
So, proper "mini" tuner buttons for Pings...........any help greatly appreciated.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2016, 05:26:04 AM by theonemanband »
Taylor T5z-12 Classic
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theonemanband

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Re: Mini tuner buttons
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 11:12:29 AM »
Thought you might like to see this message I recently felt I had to send to Taylor guitars, related to the issue of the original post but including other issues that had become apparent over the short time I have had my new T5z-12 Classic..................

Hi,
I have owned a T5S1-12 for quite a while now and I have always been delighted with it, but when recently I decided I needed something smaller and lighter I ordered a T5z-12 Classic that was shipped to the UK recently and I took delivery from my dealer three weeks ago.
I have to say that I was VERY disappointed with this guitar initially, but now after much time and work the guitar is superb and exactly as I would have wished. There were three major (design) flaws, all contributing to tuning and intonation issues.

1. The Micarta bridge saddle is in my opinion too soft and the intonation cut on the bridge from the factory was dreadful. The instruments intonation was erratic; I was unable to play in tune in varied positions around the fingerboard and having to constantly re-tune; occasional use of a capo was impossible.

2. (Related to point 1), although the tuners are 12 string “mini” tuners, the buttons appear to be full size and that, combined with the headstock on the T5z-12 being 150mm shorter, makes the proximity of the tuner buttons far too close, making tuning on the hoof difficult, and the use of a string winder nigh on impossible!

3a The small shoulder on the course of the octave bridge pins causes the concert pitch strings to be pushed to the right, deforming the natural line of the string route over the saddle. (&) b. The bridge pin holes for the 9th(A) & 11th(E) appear to be cut incorrectly to accommodate the larger wound strings, making cautious excessive force necessary to locate the pins correctly.

I have now formed & fitted a new bone bridge saddle, providing perfect intonation, string height & sound.
I have also fitted small mini (butter bean) tuner buttons, facilitating much easier tuning and the use of a string winder.
I have also cut away part of the small shoulder on the octave bridge pins, allowing the concert pitch stings to lie perfectly straight over the bridge saddle.
I have also gently reamed out a tiny fraction from the 9th. & 11th. bridge pin holes, providing a perfect fit!

All these were GENUINE issues on an instrument I bought to use professionally, and as a very satisfied T5S1 owner, NOT issues I would have expected.
I have to say however that after the above modifications, I am now completely satisfied with my new T5z-12 Classic, it is a truly excellent gigging instrument; I just felt that these few small issues needed to be pointed out!

Cheers.......Brian


I shall await there response with interest!
« Last Edit: October 21, 2016, 03:58:48 PM by theonemanband »
Taylor T5z-12 Classic
Danelectro DC59-12 (open G)
Avalon S32-12
Takamine EGMINI