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Title: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Edward on January 18, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
Is there anyone here who thinks that Taylor's truss-rod covers should not be matte in finish but should be gloss to match the headstock?  Why does Taylor do that ...perhaps the answer is as simple as it is their aesthetic choice?  Small potatoes, to be sure, but I feel that every Taylor (and R.Taylor) sporting a gloss finish at the headstock should have a gloss TRC that matches.  The dull satin has always bugged me a bit.  You? 

Edward
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: temporaryalias on January 18, 2012, 03:08:07 PM
I do I do!!

Ted and I just realized the my TRC choice on my BTO was incorrect. We were both surprised that we missed it as many times as we looked at and changed things recently, but alas.

It did get me looking for 3rd party alternatives. I found a guy who will do a plain Taylor koa TRC in gloss and I thought to myself, "good I wanted it gloss anyway to match my peghead veneer."

$0.02
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: DennisG on January 18, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
Edward,

I agree with you.  I've always felt that TRCs should match the headstock, regardless of the veneer or glossiness.  Of course, I'm still trying to figure out why my 814 has a matte headstock.
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on January 18, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
Good question...maybe it's b/c of the two little screws...and the combination of screws plus lacquer isn't the best? (cracking?) 
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Matt McGriff on January 18, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
Take it off and polish the puppy up!
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: cjd-player on January 18, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
For the flamed maple ones I've made for my guitars I finished them with gloss.  So I for one think they look better with a gloss finish. As for the standard Taylor cover, it would not be a big project to remove it and spray it with some clear gloss varnish. 
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: coldshot on January 18, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
I agree, even the 35th anniversary comes with a non gloss trc, but the plastic T5 trc well it's probably the only thing I don't like about the T5. But an easy fix to make one yourself or get Bill Nichols to.
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Edward on January 18, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
OK, so I ain't alone.  Anyone up for storming the bastille...lol!

I love Bill Nichols' work as is evidenced by the thread here and the pics I've seen in the past.  But for me, I just never wanted to part with that much coin for a custom TRC.  OTOH, a rattle can of laquer just may be the solution here as it's cheap and would likely look good given we're talking about such a small piece of wood.  Anyone try the DIY TRC "fix" here wanna fess up with your experience?  If not, I may just have to give this a go ...I wonder what Taylor would charge me for a new TRC, though, if I hate the results and have to replace it. :)

Edward
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Iplay2 on January 18, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
I have always felt like Taylor does an amazing job...until it comes to the TRC.  Then it seems like they just don't care?  Taylor makes all these amazing guitars, then they slap the same cheap looking TRC on all of them.  They are such a visible part of the guitar, you figure that Taylor would put a little more love into them.
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: temporaryalias on January 18, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
OK, so I ain't alone.  Anyone up for storming the bastille...lol!

I love Bill Nichols' work as is evidenced by the thread here and the pics I've seen in the past.  But for me, I just never wanted to part with that much coin for a custom TRC.  OTOH, a rattle can of laquer just may be the solution here as it's cheap and would likely look good given we're talking about such a small piece of wood.  Anyone try the DIY TRC "fix" here wanna fess up with your experience?  If not, I may just have to give this a go ...I wonder what Taylor would charge me for a new TRC, though, if I hate the results and have to replace it. :)

Edward

I emailed the guys at shark inlay and asked for a quote for a plain gloss Koa Taylor style Trc and I was pleased with the quote. I thought it was reasonable.
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: S MS Picker on January 18, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
I rub mine w/extra fine scotch brite and put lemon oil on them to darken them. I also swap covers to find a better grain match if possible.
Steve
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and your opinion...
Post by: michaelw on January 18, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Is there anyone here who thinks that Taylor's truss-rod covers should not be matte in finish but should be gloss to match the headstock?  Why does Taylor do that ...perhaps the answer is as simple as it is their aesthetic choice?  Small potatoes, to be sure, but I feel that every Taylor (and R.Taylor) sporting a gloss finish at the headstock should have a gloss TRC that matches.  The dull satin has always bugged me a bit.  You? 

Edward
like this ;)                                                  i believe that only the standard models with gloss headstocks/TRCs are the PSs                                             
(http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/27541/2663008740081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)(http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/18020/2720494240081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
the 600 series usually has a gloss ebony headstock with a satin ebony TRC,
although i've seen 'em with a gloss ebony TRC & a satin rosewood headstock & TRC -
700/800 series headstocks are normally satin, but i've seen them in gloss as well

it doesn't bother me to have a 'contrasting' finish TRC, but it does look cool in gloss  8)

Good question...maybe it's b/c of the two little screws...and the combination of screws plus lacquer isn't the best? (cracking?)
i think over time that could also be a concern, as a guitar will most likely have more
truss rod adjustments done over its lifetime than, say, tuning machine changes &
the holes in the TRC are not chamfered, so the head of the screw sits directly on top
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: darylcrisp on January 18, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
i'm the lone wolf here. i like the satin finish, irregardless on a gloss or satin headstock. i like the shape and fit of the stock taylor TRC, the holes are clean and the screwheads are not wallowed out.

i am amazed at some the past high dollar guitars i've owned and the clumsy way the TRC was done up.

i continue to be amazed-each and every time i uncase one of my $2000ish Taylors(mine are all mid range), of the quality of fit, finish, and sound. 

The longer i'm around guitars, the more impressed i am with Taylor and Martin. Huge bang for the buck IMO.

d
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Steely Glen on January 19, 2012, 09:14:49 AM
Of course, I'm still trying to figure out why my 814 has a matte headstock.

Seriously!  I don't understand that either. 
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: mcookoc on January 20, 2012, 12:04:46 PM
i must be odd since i never even look or think about the trc i have a gc-5 and i am going to take it out and look at it. who knows i may then have an opinion.
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: Edward on January 20, 2012, 01:49:18 PM
I'm the opposite: since my guitars are hanging on the wall, the headstock area and the contrasting matte TRC against the gloss headstock is one of the first things I notice.  Obviously no deal killer, but man something I may just have to address with a good rattle can :)

Gotta laugh at myself here, though.  If this is the only thing I can raise an eyebrow over, man I am one spoiled guy!  ...oh, sorry, I meant "fortunate."  :D

Edward
Title: Re: Taylor's TRC Question and you opinion...
Post by: cotten on January 20, 2012, 08:29:13 PM
Bill Nichols' custom TRCs compliment my Taylors quite nicely. I didn't dislike the originals from Taylor, but I LOVE Bill's work!

cotten