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Title: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: roadbiker on January 14, 2012, 07:06:56 AM
Somewhere along the line I saw a video (I think it was on the Taylor site) in which they recommended using a very little amount of oil on the nut and saddle. I have never seen this done before. Is it something that is really recommended?

Jim
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: S MS Picker on January 14, 2012, 09:25:38 AM
I sometimes use pencil lead in the nut slots,it's graphite.It helps lube the slots a little.
Steve
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Ed422 on January 14, 2012, 09:39:39 AM
I've never seen anything about putting any sort of lubricant on the saddle of an acoustic guitar.  I have heard from various places about lubricating the nut.  The only thing that makes sense to me is rubbing a little graphite (pencil lead).  Usually, the need for lubricant in the nut means the nut slots need attention.

Ed
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: sachi on January 14, 2012, 11:00:24 AM
Besides, you wouldn't want lubricating oil to soak into the wood of the guitar!
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Steely Glen on January 14, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Lubricating the nut with graphite will help the strings vibrate in the slots a little better.  The saddle shouldn't need it if it's in good repair and has been polished (toothpaste works well for this). 
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: redsnapper on January 14, 2012, 01:10:13 PM
I have used Big Bends Lil Luber Ultra Nut Sauce on my electrics for several years. I intended to use it when I change the strings on my new 814ce. After reading the comments, and since I am not having any intonation problems, I've changed my mind. If it ain't broke...

Thanks folks.
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: cjd-player on January 14, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
I use pencil lead (graphite) in the nut slots and on the top of the saddle .
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Edward on January 14, 2012, 02:38:42 PM
I've never had to treat the saddle or nut with anything in yeeeaaars of playing over many acoustics (and my style is rock and contemp so there's lots of string bending and agressive strumming/picking).  Electrics, yes, and that's likely because of the playing style and such, and even then, only a bit of pencil lead in the nut at string changes ...that's it.  But for acoustics, never.  It shouldn't need it.  If you are having tuning issues check your string-winding procedure, then your nut-slots (may be rough or tight, especially if you went up a gauge).  A proper nut/saddle on an acoustic doesn't need any treatment, IMHO.

Edward
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: coldshot on January 14, 2012, 04:15:56 PM
Sometimes when people decide to change string gauges you may need to check the clearance and depth of the nut slot o the string.
Occasionally a nut might be pinching the string a little when tunning. As others have mentioned graphite or lead from a pencil is what I use.
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: darylcrisp on January 14, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
I've never had to treat the saddle or nut with anything in yeeeaaars of playing over many acoustics (and my style is rock and contemp so there's lots of string bending and agressive strumming/picking).  Electrics, yes, and that's likely because of the playing style and such, and even then, only a bit of pencil lead in the nut at string changes ...that's it.  But for acoustics, never.  It shouldn't need it.  If you are having tuning issues check your string-winding procedure, then your nut-slots (may be rough or tight, especially if you went up a gauge). A proper nut/saddle on an acoustic doesn't need any treatment, IMHO.
Edward

what he said.
d
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Picken Pappy on January 14, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
It seems to me that if it is the oils in your hands that makes strings go dead in time, putting oil on where the strings rest would wick into the wound strings, decreasing the life of the string. I have no proof of this, it's only supposition on my part.  :-\
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Walt Q. on January 15, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
I lubricate the nut and saddles of my Strat, as I use the tremolo arm quite a bit, and it cuts down on the friction and helps the guitar remain in tune.  Never had the need to do it for an acoustic.
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: michaelw on January 15, 2012, 04:38:45 PM
i believe that with the Elixir NanoWeb 80/20s that come on most Taylors,
the extra 'slickness' of the WL Gore coating may  reduce potential binding,
provided the nut slots have been sized correctly, with no 'pinging' while tuning

on a bone nut or saddle, i imagine that a little graphite (pencil-lead) couldn't hurt,
but i would be very wary of using any kind of oil, as it could  be detrimental to overall
string life & may  possibly affect the headstock overlay & fretboard areas over time

i looked at the Graphtec website & didn't find any lubricity properties shown for standard Tusq,
but they do offer PTFE impregnated nuts & saddles (black Tusq XL), which shouldn't require 'oil'
http://graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=5 (http://graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=5)

on another note, they also offer Supercharger kits  :o & picks  8)
http://graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=24 (http://graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=24)
http://graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=22 (http://graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=22)
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: DMBfan41 on January 15, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
I've never treated the nut or saddle and will never do so unless there is a problem that is rectified by doing so.
Title: Re: Oiling the nut and saddle?
Post by: Satsuki on January 30, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
That's a new one on me. I have never heard or read to oil your nut or saddle.