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Title: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on January 23, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
210ce & 214ce DLX models 8)
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/series/200?items_per_page=12 (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/series/200?items_per_page=12)
gloss body, ES, hardshell case, small slotted diamond
fretmarkers & elixir PBs for no upcharge over last year :o

210ce DLX
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/210ce-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/210ce-dlx)
214ce DLX
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-dlx)
214ce BLK DLX
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-blk-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-blk-dlx)
214ce K DLX
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-k-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-k-dlx)
214ce SB DLX
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-dlx)

the 210ce K DLX has yet to be added to the website & for now it looks
like the BLK & SB models are being released only in the 214ce initially,
with nubone nut & saddle on acoustics, nubone nut/tusq saddle on ES/ES-T models &
single ring rosette in pearloid replaces the previous 3 ring style on the BLK & SB models
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: catan on February 01, 2014, 10:15:09 AM
Oh wow, this looks even more like the '11 414ce limiteds, plus gloss.
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on February 01, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
pretty much these
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/210ce-fltd (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/210ce-fltd)
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-fltd (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-fltd)
but, with a nubone nut, matching inner veneer, the original 800/93-00
500 series small slotted diamond fretboard inlays & elixir PB strings

the SB DLX & BLK add the single ring pearloid rosette too 8)
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-dlx (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-dlx)
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-blk (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-sb-blk)
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: sdnesmithcpa on February 02, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Interesting thing is that my DLX has 80/20s on it, unless Elixir is making the PBs the same color as 80/20s?
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on February 02, 2014, 06:05:29 PM
Interesting thing is that my DLX has 80/20s on it, unless Elixir is making the PBs the same color as 80/20s?
hmmm ???
if the wound strings appear brass in color, rather than copper, they are most likely 80/20s -
just curious if the first few digits of the serial # start with 2111XX3 or 2112XX3 because if so, then the
guitar was started in november or december of 2013 & it's possible the strings weren't "updated to PBs yet :-\

the inner veneer on your 214ce SB should  be rosewood
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: sdnesmithcpa on February 02, 2014, 06:13:41 PM
Yep, according to serial number page at Taylor, it's got an 11/27/2013 birthday.

And yes, the inner veneers on the sides and back are rosewood.  Looks much better than the light veneers on the first 214ce I had.

It also has a rosewood truss rod cover instead of black plastic.

Shawn

Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: Lizzy on February 02, 2014, 06:25:47 PM
I'd love to have one of those black 214's.
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: stepchildusmc on February 03, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
I'd love to have one of those black 214's.
you haven't had an NGD in a while Lizzy... i think your deserving !  ;D if you made your bed this morning and didnt threaten your other half with bodily harm for a 24 hr period( sometime in the last 18 months), you definitely should get one !
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on February 03, 2014, 10:00:02 PM
I'd love to have one of those black 214's.
i played a 12 214ce BLK at my FLGS before picking up my 214ce & it sounded crisper than the 214ce SB they had -
the 11 Doyle deluxe DDX model, 12 214ce BLK & some early 13s, had maple veneer back & sides & a maple neck
the DDX had a bound fretboard & offset thumbnail Chet style fretmarkers, while the BLK model had an unbound
fretboard & 6.33mm dot fretmarkers, with the mid/late 13 models going to sapele veneer back & sides & sapele neck

it's interesting that this DDX prototype basically became the 214ce BLK, other than
the 3 ring rosette, as it has the unbound fretboard, dot inlays & sapele laminate -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylor-Doyle-Dykes-DDX-Acoustic-Electric-Prototype-Black-/231110363678?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cf404a1e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylor-Doyle-Dykes-DDX-Acoustic-Electric-Prototype-Black-/231110363678?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cf404a1e)
the start date on it is may 19th, 2010 & the DDX was introduced at winter NAMM 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLtbsFXU0c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLtbsFXU0c)

acoustic guitar did a demo, but it's not in standard tuning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ENKppEI3A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ENKppEI3A)

playing stops at 1:58 & starts again at 6:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkgU_Os8_Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkgU_Os8_Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzU-rizYMI#t=286 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzU-rizYMI#t=286)

this would be a nifty idea for a 214ce DLX LTD model, imho
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Taylor-200-Series-Prototype-Maple-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar-214CE-210CE-/231119862703?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cfd13baf&nma=true&si=9lEEy0tt%252BS8Agvc9Ax6kaRlPJ%252Bo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Taylor-200-Series-Prototype-Maple-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar-214CE-210CE-/231119862703?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cfd13baf&nma=true&si=9lEEy0tt%252BS8Agvc9Ax6kaRlPJ%252Bo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
satin transblack maple veneer back & sides, with a transblack maple neck & solid black gloss top would be cool 8)

&, sure, why not put the ES2 in there, seeing that the 14 214ce DLX has the ES electronics now :-\
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: Lizzy on February 03, 2014, 10:10:47 PM
I'd love to have one of those black 214's.
you haven't had an NGD in a while Lizzy... i think your deserving !  ;D if you made your bed this morning and didnt threaten your other half with bodily harm for a 24 hr period( sometime in the last 18 months), you definitely should get one !
My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: Lizzy on February 03, 2014, 10:14:08 PM
I'd love to have one of those black 214's.
i played a 12 214ce BLK at my FLGS before picking up my 214ce & it sounded crisper than the 214ce SB they had -
the 11 Doyle deluxe DDX model, 12 214ce BLK & some early 13s, had maple veneer back & sides & a maple neck
the DDX had a bound fretboard & offset thumbnail Chet style fretmarkers, while the BLK model had an unbound
fretboard & 6.33mm dot fretmarkers, with the mid/late 13 models going to sapele veneer back & sides & sapele neck

it's interesting that this DDX prototype basically became the 214ce BLK, other than
the 3 ring rosette, as it has the unbound fretboard, dot inlays & sapele laminate -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylor-Doyle-Dykes-DDX-Acoustic-Electric-Prototype-Black-/231110363678?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cf404a1e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylor-Doyle-Dykes-DDX-Acoustic-Electric-Prototype-Black-/231110363678?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cf404a1e)
the start date on it is may 19th, 2010 & the DDX was introduced at winter NAMM 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLtbsFXU0c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLtbsFXU0c)

acoustic guitar did a demo, but it's not in standard tuning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ENKppEI3A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ENKppEI3A)

playing stops at 1:58 & starts again at 6:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkgU_Os8_Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJkgU_Os8_Y)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzU-rizYMI#t=286 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzU-rizYMI#t=286)

this would be a nifty idea for a 214ce DLX LTD model, imho
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Taylor-200-Series-Prototype-Maple-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar-214CE-210CE-/231119862703?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cfd13baf&nma=true&si=9lEEy0tt%252BS8Agvc9Ax6kaRlPJ%252Bo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Taylor-200-Series-Prototype-Maple-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar-214CE-210CE-/231119862703?pt=Guitar&hash=item35cfd13baf&nma=true&si=9lEEy0tt%252BS8Agvc9Ax6kaRlPJ%252Bo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
satin transblack maple veneer back & sides, with a transblack maple neck & solid black gloss top would be cool 8)

&, sure, why not put the ES2 in there, seeing that the 14 214ce DLX has the ES electronics now :-\

That Doyle is beautiful and sounds great:).
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: Jersey tuning on February 04, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
Like how Taylor has spun "laminates" into "layered woods".  Sanitary engineering, anyone?

The Pontus Brooklynensis awaits.
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on February 05, 2014, 09:07:47 PM
again, no spin, as it is a more accurate description, imho
definition of laminate - merriam webster

3
b :
  to unite (layers of material) by an adhesive or other means

3 layers of real wood, 2 layers of adhesive -
not to be confused with this type of laminate

to cover (something) with a thin layer of clear plastic for protection

laminate formica countertops or high pressure laminate is a different process -
i've played all solid wood guitars that, to my ear, do not have the depth or presence
of a 100/200/GS mini & to me it doesn't matter what name is placed on the process

a 100LTD series with a revised top bracing pattern, protein glue for the braces & back & sides
construction & hide glue for the bridge could be interesting, as it already has a matte 2.0 finish
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: kprusac on February 05, 2014, 10:30:34 PM
I just got the call from Sweetwater today!!!! My 214ce Blk Deluxe with Rosewood lam. & ES will ship tomorrow!!!!    ;D
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: MR XXXXX on February 05, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
Seems like the "layered wood" verbiage is to separate themselves from those HLP Martins with the photo wood grain.
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: sdnesmithcpa on February 05, 2014, 11:34:53 PM
kprusac, that guitar will make you smile...I'm really enjoying mine thus far. 

Planning a few upgrades:

Rosewood tuner buttons from Bob Nichols
Ebony bridge pins
Elixir PB HD lights when available

As far as the laminate thing, my ears can't really tell the difference.   I previously had a Masterbilt DR-500MCE, and the 214ce sounds much better in my opinion.  Besides, with the matching inner veneer someone would be hard pressed to know this guitar is laminate unless I tell them.

Shawn
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: kprusac on February 06, 2014, 12:18:13 AM
 Thanks Shawn! I can't wait to get it! My wife has already asked about my plans to start "tweaking" it. I have some gold Grovers & strap button in my stash, along with some Bob Colosi items to install on it! I love messing around with them almost as much as playing them.

I'm like you, my ear is not that refined to really hear the difference between lam & solid. My audiences will never know either.....wife & grandkids  ;)
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: michaelw on February 07, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
I just got the call from Sweetwater today!!!! My 214ce Blk Deluxe with Rosewood lam. & ES will ship tomorrow!!!!    ;D
congrats 8)
i've only known of maple & sapele veneer 214ce BLK models & the DLX is listed as being sapele,
but if there was a LTD with black stain rosewood & gloss black top, that'd be pretty 8) imho -
this is oak, but the concept is there, still allowing the wood grain to show
(http://padstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/padstyle/photos/0507/051707_lowslab_03.jpg)
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: sdnesmithcpa on February 08, 2014, 12:18:18 AM
Michael,

I like the grain on Ash too...

Shawn
Title: Re: 200 series DLX models
Post by: kprusac on February 08, 2014, 10:51:13 AM
I just got the call from Sweetwater today!!!! My 214ce Blk Deluxe with Rosewood lam. & ES will ship tomorrow!!!!    ;D
congrats 8)
i've only known of maple & sapele veneer 214ce BLK models & the DLX is listed as being sapele,
but if there was a LTD with black stain rosewood & gloss black top, that'd be pretty 8) imho -
this is oak, but the concept is there, still allowing the wood grain to show
(http://padstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/padstyle/photos/0507/051707_lowslab_03.jpg)


Before I ordered I called Sweetwater to double check on it being Rosewood and even called Taylor to make sure they offered it on the 214ce blk deluxe. I also had only seen sapele listed until the I read the detailed description on the one from SW. I would have loved a Satin finish also but will settle for gloss.