Unofficial Taylor Guitar Forum - UTGF
Lessons, Recordings, How Tos, Repair, Accessories => Lessons, Recordings, How Tos, Repair, Accessories => Topic started by: Joe M on December 19, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
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Even though their tuners are marked "Taylor", do they actually make them? Or are they just made by someone else and marked Taylor? If so, does anyone know who makes them?
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They are manufactured by Ping.
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Correct. In addition, some high-end models (Presentation Series, some limiteds, R. Taylors) use Gotoh 510 tuners.
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Thanks for the info, guys.
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It's my understanding that the 1xx and 2xx series guitar tuners aren't marked with Taylor but the ones marked with Taylor will still fit (as told to me by a Taylor rep). If you are in the market for Taylor tuners or those from another manufacturer, you can also post a Wanted to Buy ad for tuners in the Marketplace subforum if you are interested. :)
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It's my understanding that the 1xx and 2xx series guitar tuners aren't marked with Taylor but the ones marked with Taylor will still fit (as told to me by a Taylor rep). If you are in the market for Taylor tuners or those from another manufacturer, you can also post a Wanted to Buy ad for tuners in the Marketplace subforum if you are interested. :)
Correct. The ones on my 214 are not marked "Taylor" but are the same.
For anyone looking for the Taylor stamped chromes, I got a set up for sale posted in the marketplace.
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The Grover tuners Taylor used before switching to the current ones were also made by Ping.
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one slight difference is the ratio on the 'unbranded' chrome tuners (used on the
100/200, Babies & GS Mini ) is 14:1, rather than the ping-sourced Taylor tuners 18:1 -
the full-size chrome Taylors are a 'direct-replacement' upgrade for the 100/200s &
the mini size Taylor tuners (used on 12-string 300/400) can be used on Babies/GS Mini
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The Grover tuners Taylor used before switching to the current ones were also made by Ping.
I have a set of those on my 99 710, and I like them better than the new "Taylor" tuners on my 614ce. They are older, but they are still smoother and have a better feel to them. They aren't as nice as Gotohs, but I am still pretty impressed with them.
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I've got Schaller M6's on my 2000 GSLJ.
I don't know what other series' they've been on, but they were stock on mine.
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee513/proudpapa11/Toys/_DSC0034.jpg)
-K
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Never had good experiences with Taylor tuners...I've always replaced with Gotoh 510s and have never regretted it. I wish the stock tuners were of much higher quality.
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I'm the opposite -- Never had a bad experience with them. The Taylor machines always seemed to work and stay in tune just fine. That being said, I love the smoothness and the 1:21 ratio of the Gotoh 510's and have them on 5 Taylors in the collection. I want to put them on the K65, but am having a hard time justifying the high cost of a double set when the Taylors are working fine.
In contrast, I have Schaller Imperials on a Hamer Newport custom and, to be honest, I am really underwhelmed by them. A lot of play/slop in the tuners' action and low ratio make them a prime target for replacement if it weren't for the fact that I want to keep the guitar 100% original (It is the actual guitar used in Hamer's final print catalog issued in 2007 before being purchased by Fender a year or so later). Besides, other than the tuners, the Newport is an absolute killer instrument!
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In contrast, I have Schaller Imperials on a Hamer Newport custom and, to be honest, I am really underwhelmed by them. A lot of play/slop in the tuners' action and low ratio make them a prime target for replacement if it weren't for the fact that I want to keep the guitar 100% original (It is the actual guitar used in Hamer's final print catalog issued in 2007 before being purchased by Fender a year or so later). Besides, other than the tuners, the Newport is an absolute killer instrument!
Pics? I'd love to see it.
I've always had good luck with Taylor tuners. I actually replaced aftermarket Grovers on my GC6 with the original Taylors. Much less play in the tuning now.
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what is the exact reason people change tuners on their guitars. i never seemed to understand the reason, other than the pat answer that gotoh 510 are better. how so? also how do you pronounce go 2 or go toe?
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what is the exact reason people change tuners on their guitars. i never seemed to understand the reason, other than the pat answer that gotoh 510 are better. how so? also how do you pronounce go 2 or go toe?
for many, i would venture to say tuning stability, smoothness in operation & aesthetics -
if the tuners on your guitars hold tune & operate well, then they are functioning as designed
the 900 series have had Gotoh ( go toe) 510s standard, since 07,
so i would see if a guitar shop in your area has one to check out ...
give one of the tuners a turn & see if you like em :)
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what is the exact reason people change tuners on their guitars. i never seemed to understand the reason, other than the pat answer that gotoh 510 are better. how so? also how do you pronounce go 2 or go toe?
I never understood the hoopla either ...until I ended up with them on one guitar. That was it ...this skeptic was sold. For the record, I never found any fault with the Taylor Pings, never had any tuning issues, never had a single complaint about their look or function. The Gotoh 510s are just smoother, and far more precise. The fact the 510s have zero gear lash make tuning down to pitch, or simply getting to pitch, easier and, dare I say, pleasurable. I am chuckling at myself for even saying that last part, but yes, turning these machines actually can put a smile on your face. Perhaps the best testament is replacing the machines on two more guitars, simply because they are that nice. Like i said, nothing wrong with the Taylor tuners; these are simply an upgrade, IMHO.
Edward
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what is the exact reason people change tuners on their guitars. i never seemed to understand the reason, other than the pat answer that gotoh 510 are better. how so? also how do you pronounce go 2 or go toe?
I'm changing mine because I have one tuner that has apparently gone bad and will not turn very freely. Went with the Gotoh 510's because of all the positive things I've read. Can't wait for Christmas morning! ;D
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Taylor tuners have always worked well for me, although the R. Taylor tuners are pretty nice.
Terry
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True that many are pleased with the Taylor (ping) tuners, but IMHO there are higher quality products out there...I've found the difference of Gotoh 510s to be remarkable. For the money, these tuners should, again IMHO, be included on all limiters and, perhaps all 5xx or 6xx and up Taylors.
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Taylor tuners have always worked well for me, although the R. Taylor tuners are pretty nice.
Terry
the tuners on R Taylor tuners with solid (non-slotted) headstocks are Gotoh 510 Zs :)
http://www.rtaylorguitars.com/pdf/priceMenu2008.pdf (http://www.rtaylorguitars.com/pdf/priceMenu2008.pdf)
hmm... that would be another good reason to 'justify' a new guitar ???
new strings & new tuners ;)[/font]