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Lessons, Recordings, How Tos, Repair, Accessories => Lessons, Recordings, How Tos, Repair, Accessories => Topic started by: revster on December 18, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
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okay friends, I wondering this for a while. what amps are you using for your taylors, especially what may work well with ES system?
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Fender Acoustasonic 30 DSP works just fine here.
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While I am not an ES user, I do use a Fishman Loudbox Performer for my Taylor. I use Pick-Up The World electronics, namely a Dynamic Duo which is a combination of an under saddle pickup and a soundboard transducer.
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I usually play through a PA, but in more 'portable' or coffee-house kind of gigs, I use my Marshall AS50D with great success on both my ES equipped Taylors and the GS Mini (with a K&K PWM). The Marshall produces an accurate, warm acoustic tone that satisfies me.
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I don't have an acoustic amp (sound like an oxymoron) yet, but I am planning to buy the VOX AGA70 soon.
Jim
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I use a Genz Benz Shenandoah 100. XLR inputs on two identical channels, and a parametric EQ on the mids. Lets you dial in a great tone. It has external speaker out jacks, and at my daughter's wedding I used it as a small PA.
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I use and love my Fishman Solo amp. Fantastic and easy to haul around.
I also have an ultrasound D3 that I use in my house, and for smallish gigs.
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I usually play through a PA, but in more 'portable' or coffee-house kind of gigs, I use my Marshall AS50D with great success on both my ES equipped Taylors and the GS Mini (with a K&K PWM). The Marshall produces an accurate, warm acoustic tone that satisfies me.
I too have a Marshall as50d ... it is a great improvement over not having an acoustic amp and a cheaper one I had a while back ... however, I must say that about 9 months ago I got back into electric guitar and got a Fender Super Champ XD amp ... that Super Champ amazes me for the money and I have found, much to my pleasant surprise, that it can actually do a very decent job of modeling an acoustic amp ... I wouldn't get rid of my Marshall, but I have used the Super Champ on a couple of projects with great results ...
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What, no love for Ultrasound here?
Big Ultrasound fan. The DS4 is superb (and I sold mine simply because I didn't need an amp as much as I thought I would since the PA is jsut easier), and convinced a buddy to pick up an AG30. One of the most natural sounding acoustic amps out there, IMHO.
Edward
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PA only. If there isn't one to use where I play, I have an 8 channel mixer that I send to a powered monitor that is mounted on a speaker stand. Small PA's are cheap and sound pretty good and are more versatile than an acoustic amp. Getting the speaker up on the stand helps a lot. Amps on the ground work well for people in the front, but to reach the back, you will probably be louder than the people up front appreciate. Having that vertical clearance makes less sound fill the room.
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I have a small PA that gives the best results; for smaller venues the Fishman Loudbox 100 gets the nod.
My overall favorite however, is my little Roland Street Cube which is a go anywhere, battery operated, 2 channel wonder that gives just the right amount of boost to my guitars for those backyard, garage jams. It's also my around the house/bedroom amp, no plug ins and really small footprint.
Gary
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I'm glad you posted this, I've actually been in the market for an amp. There are a few brands here I haven't looked into.
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Hey revster,
I use a Yamaha EMX312sc PA for my taylors, both of them. The 814 and the T5 both dial in really nice. I have two 12" speakers for the mains and a Kustom 10" monitor. Around the house, well inside, I use the Kustom. When in the garage playing, I have the 12's going. I have much more room in the garage to set everything up. My setup handles all that I throw at it when I've set it up for playing at other locations.
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I have a Fishman Loudbox 100 also, which does a great job and doesn't weigh a ton! Also I have SWR Strawberry & California Blonds which do a nice job. Hard to pick between them because they each do different things well.
Terry
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We have a PA system for live shows but for just having fun alone with an amp, the Roland AC90 sounds fantastic with the expression system.
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...Big Ultrasound fan. The DS4 is superb...
I really like mine, though I don't have an ES-equipped guitar. Great, natural sound, with the right set of features I need in a 26lb. package, including enough power for small venues. For larger places, I use it as a stage monitor and go out to the house PA.
There are better sounding amps out there, I suppose, but not until you spend over double the money I spent on mine used but in perfect shape.
cotten
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thanks for all the replies. I have my churches pa system to use right now, but we have a roland piano amp that has caught my curiousity. someday soon will be a play day
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if only one channel was required (just for an acoustic guitar), i'd suggest this
http://www.mackie.com/products/thump/ (http://www.mackie.com/products/thump/)
if cost is a concern (they make a 12" & a 15") & one needs more control than the low,
hi & sweepable mid, i'd consider a pre sonus eq3b or a second hand bbe acoustimax
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I rarely need/use my amp as I play mostly out of a PA. However, for those situations where I'm in a pinch, I managed to pick up a real budget amp, the Behringer ACX-450, for about half the cost new on a local craigslist transaction.
It does...OK...not thrilled by it, but it does it's job. It has two inputs so I can go guitar and vocal mic for a small venue. It also has some basic reverb and chorus effects with a footswitch.
For what I paid, I'm happy...but I wouldn't pay full price on this one.
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Rivera Amps has an Taylor ES system optimized input as an option for some of their amps. It makes a very noticeable difference and I recommend trying it if you ever get a chance.
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Fishman Loudbox mini!
Pretty much everything you need for home and gigs. Inputs for guitar and mic,aux input for cd or mp3 players,XLR output to connect to a PA system,reverb and chorus.
Link: http://www.fishman.com/product/loudbox-mini
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I have a Crate CA30. Small, but it works for me just fine.
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Rivera Amps has an Taylor ES system optimized input as an option for some of their amps. It makes a very noticeable difference and I recommend trying it if you ever get a chance.
+1 on the Rivera. As far as combos go, both the Sedona 55 and the Sedona Lite has balanced inputs. According to Paul Rivera Jr., they have a great working relationship with Taylor and have placed the balanced input there so that Taylor ES users can get the most out of their ES system.
My 414-LTD ES system has been removed, so I've yet to test this...
Oh and a nod to the Fishman Loudbox line...they are really great too!
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I recently changed from a Marshall AS 50 to an AER Alpha plus. The AER is fantastic - tiny and light compared to the Marshall but just as loud - it also works really well as a stage monitor (it's small size on a crowded stage is really useful). It has a beautiful crisp, natural sound and is very quiet. The AER was not cheap but it's in a completely different league to the Marshall - I love it!
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My primary for the last 6 years or so has been the first generation Bose L1 system with 2x bass modules and the T1 Tonematch. Makes a Taylor sound like a Taylor, just a *lot* louder. Last Spring, I picked up a Fishman Loudbox Mini. Nice little amp for small rooms, and is a whole bunch easier to load in/out than the Bose... ;)
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I don't own an acoustic amp, but I've gone straight through the PA with good results.
Also, I too have a Fender Super Champ XD and it does really well when on the acoustic setting. Now if only those things came with 12" speakers!
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The only times I play plugged in I go through a PA. I do have an older Trace Acoustic TA30 amp which is OK, but not spectacular. If I were to get another amp I'd consider the Fishman Loudbox mini due to its good reviews and bang for the buck.
Bill
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I hope I don't get flogged for this but I tried a fishman loudbox through our PA system and wasn't pleased. I bought a K5 and put in in the soundbooth and skipped the loudbox. Wow! The K5 is amazing! Warm, full, lively.
I would love to use one of Taylors new amps this year but until they are no longer paired with guitars as "Builders Reserves" I will have to wait.
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I use a Genz Benz Shenandoah LT 150. XLR inputs on two channels, and a parametric EQ on the mids. Awesome on board effects that actually work. Very easy to use- Very easy to set up.
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What, no love for Ultrasound here?
Edward
There sure is, Edward. I have the DS4 as well, and I consider it an
excellent match for the ES, Anthem and iMix, and seems to do well
with magnetic, mic and piezo systems, If I were shopping today,
I'd go out and buy the exact same amp.
st
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For my needs, and for playing in church I use a Rolland AC-60. I'm very happy with everything about it. Even the chorus sounds great in the right songs. If your looking for a amp, I strongly recommend at least checking out the Rolland line. I have no affiliation with Rolland, just a satisfied customer. 8)
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For my needs, and for playing in church I use a Rolland AC-60. I'm very happy with everything about it. Even the chorus sounds great in the right songs. If your looking for a amp, I strongly recommend at least checking out the Rolland line. I have no affiliation with Rolland, just a satisfied customer. 8)
Pappy +1. I have found both the AC60 and AC90 do a fantastic job of capturing the Taylor sound via ES.
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I have a pa set up in my studio, also use it or desk with powered speakers when playing out.
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My friend, Herb Hunter, has a good suggestion that he posted on another friendly forum:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/Swablr/TaylorAmp.jpg)
He said, Taylor has announced a limited-edition, builder's-reserve amplifier with matching guitar combination limited to 30 units. The amplifier is a bi-amp design with an 8-inch woofer and 1-inch dome tweeter in a sealed cabinet rated at 40 watts (note that bi-amping increases headroom). The iPhone photograph of a page from the current Wood & Steel depicts a German spruce / flamed mahogany, grand symphony guitar with a matching maple amplifier having a mahogany insert with an inlay following the motif of the guitar inlay.
Who'll be the first among us to order this lovely set?
cotten
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For small gigs - Roland AC90.
Midsize- SoloAmp and if needed, added QSC K8s.
Larger gigs- SoloAmp + QSC k8s.
For T5s- same setup as above OR add in electric amp and run A/B to electric amp (Mesa Subway Rocket or PV Delta Blues or Roland Cube80x) and acoustic amp OR
Electric amp with Peavey 12" PA cab on stand as extension speaker.
Vocals through SoloAmp or Roland AC90 with or without QSC K8s to fill the room.
Plug and play with ES guitars and T5s. Easy setup and takedown.
Yeehaa!
davidc
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all this information has been really great. I will be using my Pa system in my church soon to play for the first time. I am still GASingfor an acoustic amp but I am old enough to wait awhile. thanks again to all who have responded.
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My wife gave me a Fishman Loudbox Mini for my birthday in November. I'm new to guitars, playing for one year! It sounds great and fills the room with my playing a combo of: Blackbird, Stairway and Tears in Heaven, over and over and over!!!. I don't amp it loud as I have nice neighbors who if I did play loud I'm sure would start a fund to buy me a Yamaha silent guitar! If I were buying though I go for the Fishman Loudbox Artist. Always nice to have more than you need. Ted has certainly benefited from this in my purchase of three guitars from him since last March, one for my son-in-law! My next guitar from Ted will be either an OM 28 Marquis or SCGC Standard OM. Then onto a nice dread, either a D18GE, D28 Marquis or D42, unless a nice SCGC, H&D or Bourgeois snags me. Gibson's quality control is just not consistent. Love their J45 TV, however I would go with either a Kopp or John Walker.
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My friend, Herb Hunter, has a good suggestion that he posted on another friendly forum:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/Swablr/TaylorAmp.jpg)
He said, Taylor has announced a limited-edition, builder's-reserve amplifier with matching guitar combination limited to 30 units. The amplifier is a bi-amp design with an 8-inch woofer and 1-inch dome tweeter in a sealed cabinet rated at 40 watts (note that bi-amping increases headroom). The iPhone photograph of a page from the current Wood & Steel depicts a German spruce / flamed mahogany, grand symphony guitar with a matching maple amplifier having a mahogany insert with an inlay following the motif of the guitar inlay.
Who'll be the first among us to order this lovely set?
cotten
these sets are a bit over the top in the looks department for my preferences... i bet they sound fantastic tho and I'm sure they won't last long whichever store is lucky enough to get to sell them