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Title: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: DennisG on June 28, 2012, 08:52:52 PM
My guitar was plugged in the other day, and I wanted to go do something, so I leaned it against a chair.  When I did that, I noticed that the guitar was sitting on the plug, and I heard some crackling.  It got me wondering:  would it make more sense for the jack to be located somewhere else, considering how many of us set our guitars down on the end pin to lean it against something?
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: cjd-player on June 28, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
I like the end pin location for the jack better than any other.

I use a guitar stand if I'm not holding the guitar. 
With a Hercules stand, the cable never gets caught on the lower arms of the typical stands.
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Captain Jim on June 28, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
I use a V-Cable and have no issue with turning it off and unplugging/plugging in.  Also use a guitar stand, which keeps the guitar off the floor.
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: oatordeal on June 28, 2012, 11:13:30 PM
besides, one of the reasons the jack is located at the end pin is that it prevents the guitar from getting another hole. i think if you try to move both though, it will be awkward standing up with a guitar strap. have an idea how to move it though?
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Judson H on June 29, 2012, 08:00:31 AM
My Martin DCPA-4 has separated and off-set the jack about 2 inched away from the end pin ... I think this is true of all the Performing Artist Martins and it's a good idea in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Judson H on June 29, 2012, 08:04:40 AM
My Martin DCPA-4 has separated and off-set the jack about 2 inched away from the end pin ... I think this is true of all the Performing Artist Martins and it's a good idea in my humble opinion.

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Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Edward on June 29, 2012, 09:06:35 AM
The Martin solution is not bad ...some may prefer it.  But I definitely prefer the Taylor method for the simple reason that I don't want the potential tangling/interference of the strap and cable when performing.  With the cable plugged into the center of the strap pin, both the strap and cable are unencumbered from one another.

Edward
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Judson H on June 29, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
Yep, that's a valid point.  Most makes and models that I've seen actually do use the end pin as the jack for the pick-up ...

The Martin solution is not bad ...some may prefer it.  But I definitely prefer the Taylor method for the simple reason that I don't want the potential tangling/interference of the strap and cable when performing.  With the cable plugged into the center of the strap pin, both the strap and cable are unencumbered from one another.

Edward
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Steam on June 29, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
One nice extra about the jack in the end pin is that it keeps your strap from coming loose while you are standing and playing. 
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: oatordeal on June 29, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
even when the jack is located at the end pin, i always make it a point to put a loop around my strap before plugging the jack. that way it secures the strap even if it gets loose. PLUS, it keeps me from stepping the guitar chord while performing (mostly happens with an electric guitar though more than the acoustic).
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: RGtheMusicGuy on July 02, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
I saw a kid one time with a guitar that had the jack on the side.  He walked off with it still plugged in and ripped the jack out of the guitar and left a huge hole in the side of his guitar. 
Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: michaelw on July 06, 2012, 12:43:44 AM
a cable with a right angle end, or a stand to keep the output jack area off the ground would likely help -
leaning a guitar up against something could be a repair waiting to happen (i'd try to avoid doing that)

the 03-06 100/200 series with ES Blue & the DDSM have the output jack on the  lower treble bout side
of the guitar, which i believe would have some kind of reinforcement 'patch' on the inside of the guitar -
i see the potential of dings/scratches from the tip of the cable if one is trying to plug the guitar in 'by feel'

most aftermarket pickup utilize a cap that covers the threaded end & lock nut at the outer end of the output jack -
the tailblock seems like the ideal (most reinforced) area for it to be, for if the guitar were to fall with a cable
plugged into a side-mount output jack, the likelihood of the side sustaining damage or a crack is probably quite high

the martin power supply output jack assembly terminates at the very edge of the tail block close to the kerfing -
to me, that design seems to be a bit 'lacking' (the 9V battery carrier on the ES closes with a positive 'click')
whereas the battery door on the martin just covers the bare end of the battery (not a very stout piece, imho)



Title: Re: Should the end-pin jack be moved?
Post by: Satsuki on July 06, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
It would be simpler to use a guitar stand. It would keep your guitar and the end jack
off the floor.