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Taylor Acoustic & Electric Guitars => Taylor Acoustic & Electric Guitars => Topic started by: Glen on June 21, 2012, 02:43:26 PM
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I think I posted a poll similar to this a few months ago. Maybe it was same two guitar options. Sorry if we are rehashing.
I ended up with a Fall Ltd Koa. I have not played either of the exact one's I am considering but I have played "like" guitars at different times.
Which would you choose?
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I voted the 914 only because I prefer the tone of rosewood over cocobolo. I have not played a lot of cocobolo Taylors, but the one I have were just a bit too thin and bright. Cocobolo is a beautiful wood though.
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I voted the 914 only because I prefer the tone of rosewood over cocobolo. I have not played a lot of cocobolo Taylors, but the one I have were just a bit too thin and bright. Cocobolo is a beautiful wood though.
I agree, BUT the best Taylor I ever played was a Fall Ltd Coco. Unfortunately, some of the other Coco's I have played were a bit thin and bright as well, hence my dilemma.
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I've always felt that the top wood is the main course and the back/side wood is the spice. The best guitar I've ever played or heard is the cocobolo that I own, and it has a sinker redwood top. Without great top wood, whatever that is, it doesn't matter what the back and sides are made from.
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I've always felt that the top wood is the main course and the back/side wood is the spice. The best guitar I've ever played or heard is the cocobolo that I own, and it has a sinker redwood top. Without great top wood, whatever that is, it doesn't matter what the back and sides are made from.
This is true... 80% of tone comes for the top, so the spice would be 20% back and sides. I wonder why Taylor has not done a Ltd Cedar/Coco in recent years if at all. Oh, I was looking at a BTO, and Sinker is not available at this time. Might want to hold on that Sinker....
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
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Love coco. Can't say much more than that.
-Dave
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
HAD a 914CE... Missing it. Going to buy another or Fall Coco..
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
HAD a 914CE... Missing it. Going to buy another or Fall Coco..
Hmm... I prefer the Fall Cocobolo LTD, but if you've already got a bright guitar in the Koa then I'd say get the 914 Rosewood for contrast. At the end of the day though I reckon one Taylor is enough for that Taylor tone (especially if they're going to be the same shape) and you could save your money either for other purposes or to get a different brand, but that's just me.
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
HAD a 914CE... Missing it. Going to buy another or Fall Coco..
Hmm... I prefer the Fall Cocobolo LTD, but if you've already got a bright guitar in the Koa then I'd say get the 914 Rosewood for contrast. At the end of the day though I reckon one Taylor is enough for that Taylor tone (especially if they're going to be the same shape) and you could save your money either for other purposes or to get a different brand, but that's just me.
The Koa will mellow a lot over the next couple years if it is played a lot. That is the problem with Koa, if you buy for today you will be disappointed when it changes. If you buy for the future you will not like playing it because it doesn't sound like you expect and you have to keep playing it to get there. Coco and Koa will sound completely different in the long run.
-Dave
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I'd be blessed to own either. I went for the Fall Limited, because I have shell-bling fatigue - it's everywhere!
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
HAD a 914CE... Missing it. Going to buy another or Fall Coco..
Hmm... I prefer the Fall Cocobolo LTD, but if you've already got a bright guitar in the Koa then I'd say get the 914 Rosewood for contrast. At the end of the day though I reckon one Taylor is enough for that Taylor tone (especially if they're going to be the same shape) and you could save your money either for other purposes or to get a different brand, but that's just me.
The Koa will mellow a lot over the next couple years if it is played a lot. That is the problem with Koa, if you buy for today you will be disappointed when it changes. If you buy for the future you will not like playing it because it doesn't sound like you expect and you have to keep playing it to get there. Coco and Koa will sound completely different in the long run.
-Dave
What I am about to post contradicts just about every Koa post. My Koa Ltd is not very bright. In fact, it is warmer sounding than my old 914CE. I think I got one of those rare Koa's that plays - "played in" out of box. Does it sound like a 10 year old Koa? No. But, it is the nicest Koa I have ever played. Oddly enough I bought it new from an obscure dealer in the midwest and had it shipped. Hey, every squirrel finds a nut :-)
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What I am about to post contradicts just about every Koa post. My Koa Ltd is not very bright. In fact, it is warmer sounding than my old 914CE. I think I got one of those rare Koa's that plays - "played in" out of box. Does it sound like a 10 year old Koa? No. But, it is the nicest Koa I have ever played. Oddly enough I bought it new from an obscure dealer in the midwest and had it shipped. Hey, every squirrel finds a nut :-)
Ditto with my 2011 Fall Limited Koa. Dark and sweet like my favorite Kona coffee. Tonally warmer than my 814ce and gave my 416ce Rosewood a run for it's money. It must be the CV bracing and 12-Fret configuration.
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I've always felt that the top wood is the main course and the back/side wood is the spice. The best guitar I've ever played or heard is the cocobolo that I own, and it has a sinker redwood top. Without great top wood, whatever that is, it doesn't matter what the back and sides are made from.
This is true... 80% of tone comes for the top, so the spice would be 20% back and sides. I wonder why Taylor has not done a Ltd Cedar/Coco in recent years if at all. Oh, I was looking at a BTO, and Sinker is not available at this time. Might want to hold on that Sinker....
I just had a BTO quoted with Sinker... I am pretty sure it is available...
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I've always felt that the top wood is the main course and the back/side wood is the spice. The best guitar I've ever played or heard is the cocobolo that I own, and it has a sinker redwood top. Without great top wood, whatever that is, it doesn't matter what the back and sides are made from.
This is true... 80% of tone comes for the top, so the spice would be 20% back and sides. I wonder why Taylor has not done a Ltd Cedar/Coco in recent years if at all. Oh, I was looking at a BTO, and Sinker is not available at this time. Might want to hold on that Sinker....
I just had a BTO quoted with Sinker... I am pretty sure it is available...
Got a BTO sheet from Jim at GR within last couple days. He said that Madagascar and Sinker are not available at this time. It was on BTO sheet but he said not presently available. Might want to verify.
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So according to your signature, you already have a 914ce?
HAD a 914CE... Missing it. Going to buy another or Fall Coco..
Hmm... I prefer the Fall Cocobolo LTD, but if you've already got a bright guitar in the Koa then I'd say get the 914 Rosewood for contrast. At the end of the day though I reckon one Taylor is enough for that Taylor tone (especially if they're going to be the same shape) and you could save your money either for other purposes or to get a different brand, but that's just me.
The Koa will mellow a lot over the next couple years if it is played a lot. That is the problem with Koa, if you buy for today you will be disappointed when it changes. If you buy for the future you will not like playing it because it doesn't sound like you expect and you have to keep playing it to get there. Coco and Koa will sound completely different in the long run.
-Dave
What I am about to post contradicts just about every Koa post. My Koa Ltd is not very bright. In fact, it is warmer sounding than my old 914CE. I think I got one of those rare Koa's that plays - "played in" out of box. Does it sound like a 10 year old Koa? No. But, it is the nicest Koa I have ever played. Oddly enough I bought it new from an obscure dealer in the midwest and had it shipped. Hey, every squirrel finds a nut :-)
that's what i heard when i played an 11 koa LTD (warmth) also & with a slightly heavier pick (0.96 mm),
(which was also what i used on an 11 coco LTD), it brought out what that guitar (both) could deliver, imho -
the aesthetic features (inlays, purfling, rosette, backstrap), gotohs & bone nut & saddle are nice touches, too :)