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Title: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: solosdad on March 15, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
I just viewed the Spring Limiteds post by Ted of L.A. Guitar sales. Wow, GS Mini's with some interesting back and sides!
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: thedak on March 15, 2012, 09:32:39 AM
Ima be broke this year.

 :P
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: michaelw on March 15, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Ima be broke this year.

 :P
i'm already there  ;D

Jon at My Favorite Guitars has the pics & info posted on his site too ...
spring's definitely here :D
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: BigSkyTaylorPlayer on March 15, 2012, 12:09:51 PM
While as expected, all of the offerings are gorgeous - I'm a little irked  >:( in that new Mini's are just $100 different than the originals.  I do love my Sapele Mini....but......for $100 and a few months I could have had some different choices.... :-\  just sayin'
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Steve on March 15, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
While as expected, all of the offerings are gorgeous - I'm a little irked  >:( in that new Mini's are just $100 different than the originals.  I do love my Sapele Mini....but......for $100 and a few months I could have had some different choices.... :-\  just sayin'

You think they should've priced them higher?
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Go Navy on March 15, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
I just viewed the Spring Limiteds post by Ted of L.A. Guitar sales. Wow, GS Mini's with some interesting back and sides!

OK, "Uncle".....where is that post?
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: cigarfan on March 15, 2012, 07:14:28 PM
I just viewed the Spring Limiteds post by Ted of L.A. Guitar sales. Wow, GS Mini's with some interesting back and sides!

OK, "Uncle".....where is that post?

http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244678

Also interesting the discussion regarding the laminate veneer on the new mini's

http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2969934&postcount=27


Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: michaelw on March 15, 2012, 07:19:38 PM
While as expected, all of the offerings are gorgeous - I'm a little irked  >:( in that new Mini's are just $100 different than the originals.  I do love my Sapele Mini....but......for $100 and a few months I could have had some different choices.... :-\  just sayin'
i'm guessing that they may not have  to be sold at that price & there's a possibility
that adjusted market value could come into play, perhaps not to the degree of the
baby Liberty Tree but when the bubinga, koa, maple & rosewood babies were available,
they were regular production (non-LTD) models & there was only a minimal upcharge

i really like my sapele mini too, but to my ear the mahogany top is incredible -
i don't believe all minis are created equal tonally (from the examples i've played) & if i were looking
at the LTDs, unless i didn't already have one (or 2), i would want to play it first to know how it sounds

based on the mahogany top model, i am really hoping that engelmann & cedar top minis
will be offered at some point on a LTD & sapele back & sides would be just fine, imho :)
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Greenheart on March 15, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Hmm, a cedar topped mini would be very nice. BTW, just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: mgap on March 15, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
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just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.
I guess that is why they call them limiteds.
Sure would like to hear what they all sound like in my hands.

Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on March 16, 2012, 01:19:29 AM
Hmm, a cedar topped mini would be very nice. BTW, just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.

Dang...that was fast!!!   :o    ;D
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: S MS Picker on March 16, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Hmm, a cedar topped mini would be very nice. BTW, just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.
Well, feel my GAS subsiding !
Steve
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Ted @ LA Guitar Sales on March 16, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Hmm, a cedar topped mini would be very nice. BTW, just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.
Well, feel my GAS subsiding !
Steve

Not so fast Steve, Taylor might have sold out but your local dealer hasn't even received them yet.  ;)
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: mgap on March 17, 2012, 01:18:44 PM
Does anybody have a inkling as to how the blackwood mini will sound in comparison to the others.  I have never heard a blackwood guitar before.  Thinking of ordering a GS Mini in blackwood or rosewood.
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Steve on March 17, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Hmm, a cedar topped mini would be very nice. BTW, just came back from my local Taylor dealership and they tell me Taylor sold out of the minis.
Well, feel my GAS subsiding !
Steve

Not so fast Steve, Taylor might have sold out but your local dealer hasn't even received them yet.  ;)

Such is the nature of Spring and Fall Limiteds...
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: ebick on March 17, 2012, 03:33:12 PM
so......how is it that LA Guitar has this info posted already, but it's not on Taylor's own site yet?
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: andyi5 on March 17, 2012, 04:51:48 PM
Yeah, I was wondering this too. They look so good you'd think they'd be used as the banner image...
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: mgap on March 17, 2012, 06:18:10 PM
Seems like L.A. Guitars are highly motivated in a good way ;)
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: michaelw on March 18, 2012, 06:40:49 PM
they're beginning to 'land' already :)

814
http://www.carusomusic.com/Taylor-2012-814ce-LTD-cocobolo (http://www.carusomusic.com/Taylor-2012-814ce-LTD-cocobolo)

3 816s & a 314-n
http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/acoustics/taylor/limiteds.htm (http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/acoustics/taylor/limiteds.htm)
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: mgap on March 18, 2012, 06:56:32 PM
My local dealer wont get their GS Mini stock in for another 30 days.  Thinking about getting one.  Not sure which one Rosewood, Blackwood, or Maple???  Any suggestions.
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: BigSkyTaylorPlayer on March 18, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Just buy one of each.....you know you're going to eventually.... :D

I like the maple.
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: mgap on March 18, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
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I like the maple.

Tell me why you like the maple. Please!
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Fire on March 18, 2012, 09:49:42 PM
Does anybody have a inkling as to how the blackwood mini will sound in comparison to the others.  I have never heard a blackwood guitar before.  Thinking of ordering a GS Mini in blackwood or rosewood.

Since the back and sides are laminate, the only difference I think is aesthetics. I read this somewhere. Kinda like the 114 and 214 are essentially the same guitar except for the outside layer veneer which is not a tonal factor.
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: BigSkyTaylorPlayer on March 18, 2012, 09:55:23 PM
I think BC they are laminate there will not be the dramatic sound impact as there is with solids (maybe someone can elaborate) but I just simply think the Maple back of the Mini is really gorgeous.

I have been looking at the 600 series lately so maybe I'm biased....
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: michaelw on March 18, 2012, 10:49:15 PM
Does anybody have a inkling as to how the blackwood mini will sound in comparison to the others.  I have never heard a blackwood guitar before.  Thinking of ordering a GS Mini in blackwood or rosewood.

Since the back and sides are laminate, the only difference I think is aesthetics. I read this somewhere. Kinda like the 114 and 214 are essentially the same guitar except for the outside layer veneer which is not a tonal factor.
while the GS Mini LTDs may  have inner veneers matching the outer veneers, there is a
little bit more of a difference between a 114 & 214 (depending on the exact model)
114 - sapele laminate, varnish finish (all satin)
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/114 (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/114)

214 - gloss top with satin finish back & sides
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214 (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214)
rosewood inner & outer veneer
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/features/woods/body-woods/rosewood-laminate (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/features/woods/body-woods/rosewood-laminate)

214ce-BLK - all gloss (body & neck), hard rock maple neck
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-blk (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/214ce-blk)
maple inner & outer veneer
http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/features/woods/body-woods/maple-laminate (http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/features/woods/body-woods/maple-laminate)

after playing & hearing last year's 214ce & DDX (now 214ce-BLK), the DDX had
a 'crisper' tone to my ear, which may  be just variances between the 2 guitars, or,
it could  be partially due to the differences between the two (finish, veneers & neck) -
the 2012s switch from a Tusq nut & saddle to NuBone (both made by Graph Tech),
so there may  be a minute change due to that (the 10/11 GS Mini use NuBone also)


Quote from: mgap link=topic=1353.msg12483,#msg12483 date=1332113447
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I like the maple.

Tell me why you like the maple. Please!
er ... maybe because it looks cool ???
like the binding on the mahogany neck of your 2010
814ce that has a satin rosewood headstock overlay :)

baby maple
(http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/47290/2952112220081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
maple neck (baby rosewood)
(http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/47485/2987903590081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
or, perhaps it's because maple may have more defintion, stronger fundamentals, fewer
overtones, faster attack, quicker decay & is more resistant to feedback than other woods ;)

ymmv
Title: Re: 2012 SPRING LIMITEDS ANNOUNCED
Post by: Fire on March 19, 2012, 10:35:39 AM
Quote from: michaelw
while the GS Mini LTDs will probably  have sapele inner veneer, regardless of the outer veneer,
there is a little bit more of a difference between a 114 & 214 (depending on the exact model)

114 - sapele laminate, varnish finish (all satin)
214 - gloss top with satin finish back & sides, rosewood inner & outer veneer
214ce-BLK - all gloss (body & neck), hard rock maple neck, maple inner & outer veneer

after playing & hearing last year's 214ce & DDX (now 214ce-BLK), the DDX had
a 'crisper' tone to my ear, which may  be just variances between the 2 guitars, or,
it could  be partially due to the differences between the two (finish, veneers & neck) -
the 2012s switch from a Tusq nut & saddle to NuBone (both made by Graph Tech),
so there may  be a minute change due to that (the 10/11 GS Mini use NuBone also)



Thanks for the technical spec clarification, michaelw. You're a fountain of information.

Last week, I had initially set out to buy a GS Mini for travel purposes. However, I made the "mistake" of test driving a 2012 114ce which sounded better than any of the GS Minis (as expected) and 214ce's (didn't check what model year they were) on the store that day. So I came home with a rather bulkier travel guitar... but I couldn't be happier.