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Mus3r1971

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GS Mini not keeping tune
« on: December 22, 2019, 06:18:32 AM »
Hey folks, wondering if someone might be able to help me out.......

I recently swapped out the tuning buttons on my GS mini Koa for ebony buttons. I kept the same tuning heads, just changed the buttons. Since then I've noticed the guitar doesn't seem to tune so easily and goes out of tune again really quickly. When I tune the guitar using the on board tuner it sounds way off to my ear and when compared with a stand-alone tuner it is definitely off.  It was absolutely fine before I changed the buttons.
 
Have I messed something up when I changed them? Could I have over tightened them or something? I thought it would be a quick and simple upgrade but now I'm worried I've damaged the tuning heads. It does look pretty though  :)

Any ideas or advice appreciated, thank-you.
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2019, 11:52:28 AM »
i’m not sure exactly bc i received my gs mini with gotoh minis installed. my mini goes out of time every day, and i didn’t rely in the built in tuner bc it’s not as accurate as a poly tune tuner i use.

just tune it before every play, technically a good practice anyway :)
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 06:23:25 PM »
I charged the plastic pins for the abalone capped ones and had the same issue but they calmed down after a few tunings.
:D Danny
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2019, 08:37:52 PM »
Quote from: woodnut on December 22, 2019, 06:23:25 PM
I charged the plastic pins for the abalone capped ones and had the same issue but they calmed down after a few tunings.
:D Danny

yep. i also changed my plastic pins to ebony pins with abalone. wonder if that’s what’s causing it
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2019, 06:42:41 PM »
I also had to push down on the new pins with a small piece of hardwood as some wouldn’t seat properly. Check to see if their all at the same height.
:D Danny
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2019, 08:21:31 AM »
Interesting.... I also changed out the plastic pins for ebony pins at the same time as the buttons and I had a bit of bother seating one of them. Maybe that's the problem and not the buttons. Thank-you!!
I'll investigate as soon as i get home from work  :)
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2019, 12:59:41 PM »
I do not think the onboard tuner is very accurate to begin with. But it is better than nothing, for sure.
 I always check fine tuning by ear, using harmonics, even with my TC poly tune  which is super accurate. And I check tuning every time I pick up a guitar. Amazing how often they go out a bit...

What did you use for your buttons, and where did you get them?

I am looking for similar buttons for a 2017 552 12 string with stock Taylor mini tuners.
 Are yours a nice fit on the Taylor mini tuners? May I ask where you found yours?

Cheers

Paul
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2020, 09:10:33 PM »
I used the Schaller style small ebony buttons and they were a perfect fit. I got them from the Stewmac website. I'll have to try and post a photo at some point  :)

https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Tuner_Parts/Schaller_Replacement_Knobs.html?pref_currency=P
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Re: GS Mini not keeping tune
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 09:25:19 AM »
I realize this is an old post....but....

If your guitar is having issued staying in tune, it's probably not your tuners.  It's probably your nut (needs lubricating).
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