Unofficial Taylor Guitar Forum - UTGF
Marketplace: Buy, Sell, Trade => Marketplace: Buy, Sell, Trade => Topic started by: Drock2k1 on October 18, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
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Do shops typically just discount these to move them or do they tend to hold on to them. I am looking everywhere for a 2011 Fall Koa but no luck.
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Good question. I did see a 2011 spring LTD still hanging around a few months back. After playing it for a while in the shop it came home with me :)
I'm not sure if you have any interest in buying online but if you do there are a few 2011 Fall Koa's available right now...
Ebay has a 2011 Fall Koa 510-CE plus 5 or 6 2010 Fall Koas in various styles (not sure if you are interested in a 2010): http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=taylor+fall+koa&_sacat=0&_from=R40
There's a 2011 Fall Koa 516-CE on gbase: http://www.gbase.com/gear/taylor-516ce-limited-koa-2011-natural-wood
You can also set up searches on these sites to send you emails whenever a new offering matches your search. I know its not for everyone and I can understand why, but just to share my experiences... I have purchased 3 high end guitars online and have had an excellent experience each time. One was from Ted from LA guitar sales. He is on this forum sometimes. I would definitely purchase a guitar from him again (and probably will sometime).
Good luck with your search.
-Brian
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I'm pretty sure they'd be pretty much all sold out. There's one available at Golden Ant in Taiwan, and I'm sure that they'd be happy to ship internationally to get the sale, but FWIW I personally think the Fall 2011 Koa LTD is one of the worst deals you can get, partly because I feel like it is not tone value for money, and secondly most people who like it like it for its aesthetics more than the sound. If you ever got the chance to compare it side by side with a 814, IMO, it is no competition really. Furthermore, the K series offers a better tone IMO because they use Sitka tops and don't sound as dull as the Koa tops. These are just my views.
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Thanks for the info. I will be honest, the shaded edgeburst is one of the biggest reasons I wanted the Fall limited in particular over any other Koa offering. I guess I will keep looking.
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Willcutt Guitar Shoppe in Lexington Kentucky has 2. A GA and a GC. They always seem to have a plethora of LTD's. Just dont expect the deep discounts like you get from some of our forum sponsors. :o
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Thanks for the heads up. Too bad they don't discount like the cool cats here :)
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Thanks for the heads up. Too bad they don't discount like the cool cats here :)
I hope it works out for you. Keep us posted.
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I know you're looking for a koa model, but Martin Musics still has one Cocobolo model. I have played it, and it is a wonderful instrument! The grain in the Cocobolo back is spectacular:
http://www.martinmusicguitar.com/products/acousticguitars/products.php?pcid=10064&cid=42464&pid=67758
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Just dont expect the deep discounts like you get from some of our forum sponsors.
This is an interesting comment.
Why would you expect "deep discounts" from a forum sponsor?
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Just dont expect the deep discounts like you get from some of our forum sponsors.
This is an interesting comment.
Why would you expect "deep discounts" from a forum sponsor?
To clarify, the UTGF doesn't have any forum sponsors at this time. Whether or not that changes will be up to our wonderful Admin (remember, we are still a relatively new forum). :)
If anyone wishes to discuss dealer discounts, please do so via PM's. Thank you! :D
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I know you're looking for a koa model, but Martin Musics still has one Cocobolo model. I have played it, and it is a wonderful instrument! The grain in the Cocobolo back is spectacular:
http://www.martinmusicguitar.com/products/acousticguitars/products.php?pcid=10064&cid=42464&pid=67758
Such good value for money, that guitar. If I was to ever purchase any of the Fall LTDs, that one would be it.
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Just dont expect the deep discounts like you get from some of our forum sponsors.
This is an interesting comment.
Why would you expect "deep discounts" from a forum sponsor?
Sorry. Wrong forum. I was speaking of the AGF sponsors. I see some of the same members here as I do there. I sometimes fail to differentiate between the two. My intent was to help the OP track down the guitar they are interested in. Not to start a taboo conversation. :-X :o
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My intent was to help the OP track down the guitar they are interested in. Not to start a taboo conversation.
See, that's an interesting comment, as well.
Why would discussing the expectation of a deep discount, simply because one is a member of a forum, be a taboo conversation?
Just wondrin'...
:)
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My intent was to help the OP track down the guitar they are interested in. Not to start a taboo conversation.
See, that's an interesting comment, as well.
Why would discussing the expectation of a deep discount, simply because one is a member of a forum, be a taboo conversation?
Just wondrin'...
:)
It is simply to help the smaller shops that aren't able to compete with shops which offer bigger discounts. It all ties in to Josh's response which he posted here (http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=2340.15). ;)
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My intent was to help the OP track down the guitar they are interested in. Not to start a taboo conversation.
See, that's an interesting comment, as well.
Why would discussing the expectation of a deep discount, simply because one is a member of a forum, be a taboo conversation?
Just wondrin'...
:)
It is simply to help the smaller shops that aren't able to compete with shops which offer bigger discounts. It all ties in to Josh's response which he posted here (http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=2340.15). ;)
Actually, Condy, that has nothing to do with what I asked. Let me try another way:
Why would you expect a deep discount from a forum dealer?
Deep discounts do not help a smaller shop. In fact, just the opposite is true. Smaller shops, which enjoy neither the traffic nor cash flow as a large dealer may, cannot compete for very long if they're selling guitars at just a few points over their cost. They may land a few sales here and there but, in the long run, a dealer who's not making enough money to run their business isn't going to be in business very long. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
I believe my question is a fair one. Why should/would/could someone expect a deep discount from a forum sponsor?
As this forum does not currently have sponsors, we should be able to freely discuss this topic without hurting any "smaller shops"...
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My intent was to help the OP track down the guitar they are interested in. Not to start a taboo conversation.
See, that's an interesting comment, as well.
Why would discussing the expectation of a deep discount, simply because one is a member of a forum, be a taboo conversation?
Just wondrin'...
:)
It is simply to help the smaller shops that aren't able to compete with shops which offer bigger discounts. It all ties in to Josh's response which he posted here (http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=2340.15). ;)
Actually, Condy, that has nothing to do with what I asked. Let me try another way:
Why would you expect a deep discount from a forum dealer?
Deep discounts do not help a smaller shop. In fact, just the opposite is true. Smaller shops, which enjoy neither the traffic nor cash flow as a large dealer may, cannot compete for very long if they're selling guitars at just a few points over their cost. They may land a few sales here and there but, in the long run, a dealer who's not making enough money to run their business isn't going to be in business very long. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
I believe my question is a fair one. Why should/would/could someone expect a deep discount from a forum sponsor?
As this forum does not currently have sponsors, we should be able to freely discuss this topic without hurting any "smaller shops"...
The policy is set. That's it. We've beat this dead horse for a long time now. Once again this is off topic. I'll leave it up for a bit, but then I'll delete all the posts that don't pertain to the OP's question.
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I'm not talking pricing, nor am I talking about specific percentages of discounts which a dealer may or may not offer. I'm not asking about what the customer expects but, rather, why he believes he should expect it. Surely you can see the difference.
It's no different than saying I expect a new set of strings on a guitar that's been on display. Why do I expect that? Because those strings have been played; they're not new.
Can we seriously not discuss such things?
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It looks like this topic has been discussed already
http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=1922.0 (http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=1922.0)
2011 Fall Limited Koa Grand Symphony
http://www.musicianswarehouseathens.com/taylor-2011-fall-limited-koa-grand-symphon2011.html (http://www.musicianswarehouseathens.com/taylor-2011-fall-limited-koa-grand-symphon2011.html)
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Ok...so, back to the Limiteds. Thanks for the info. Having been a long time member from other forums I can, for the most part, understand what to expect price wise. If anyone else runs across these, please let me know.
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I'm not talking pricing, nor am I talking about specific percentages of discounts which a dealer may or may not offer. I'm not asking about what the customer expects but, rather, why he believes he should expect it. Surely you can see the difference.
It's no different than saying I expect a new set of strings on a guitar that's been on display. Why do I expect that? Because those strings have been played; they're not new.
Can we seriously not discuss such things?
Obviously this needs to be said:
The UTGF is a new forum which is still going through growing pains (as a couple of well-respected forum members have mentioned to me).
I liken our forum to a fine dining establishment. Prior to opening for business, we decided our restaurant would accomodate individuals who relish fine food and service. So we offer a variety of foods and entertainment which caters towards a diverse clientele. We offer a family-friendly environment but also have a nice bar with a wide-screen TV.
Occasionally some heated debates come up over sports which are friendly and spirited. However, we've had a few encounters which turned into barroom brawls. During some of these brawls, some innocent bystanders got hurt. And some of our well-respected clientele, the ones who are our bread and butter, decided they no longer wanted to partake of our services. :(
So we have made a business decision to stop certain bad behaviors before any additional patrons get hurt. There are other nearby bars where people can get into fist fights, and since there are plenty of them, we have decided to escort some of our patrons out of our restaurant so they can cool off. They are certainly welcome to come back when they have calmed down, but we wish to cater to those individuals who desire to partake of fine food and entertainment.
Ok...so, back to the Limiteds. Thanks for the info. Having been a long time member from other forums I can, for the most part, understand what to expect price wise. If anyone else runs across these, please let me know.
And with Drock2k1's wish, we WILL get back to discussing limiteds. Any future posts in this thread which do not adhere to this topic WILL be deleted. Now onto your dining pleasure. ;)
Thank you. :)
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Hey wait a minute I forgot what we were talking about, LOL ;D
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Do shops typically just discount these to move them or do they tend to hold on to them. I am looking everywhere for a 2011 Fall Koa but no luck.
I believe I saw a few 2011's at The Arts in Newmarket Ontario, Canada.
IMO a very fine retail representative of the Taylor brand, and others .
No affiliation ,other than a satisfied customer.
They have a website. www.theartsmusicstore.com
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Do shops typically just discount these to move them or do they tend to hold on to them. I am looking everywhere for a 2011 Fall Koa but no luck.
I believe I saw a few 2011's at The Arts in Newmarket Ontario, Canada.
IMO a very fine retail representative of the Taylor brand, and others .
No affiliation ,other than a satisfied customer.
They have a website. www.theartsmusicstore.com
The Arts used to be one of my accounts. In fact, they were the top Taylor dealer in Canada in 2011. They "get it"; they stock deep, and always maintain a ridiculously comprehensive representation of the line...
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I saw several on the Wildwood Guitars website not too long ago. They have an impressive stock!
Good luck!
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even tho I love my 914ce cedar, I can't second guessing if I should have bought the 2011 fall ltd koa instead
I hear people raving on and on about how great koa is after it opens up , but it didn't sound great new
I especially second guess it bc I liked the 2011 714ce, which has a cedar and rosewood, but I liked the warmth of the midtones, which apparently koa shines i
maybe my wife will let me buy a used one 10 yrs from now :)
then it will be opened up hehe
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hey all, just wanted to ring in here on the some of the "tone" comments on the 2011 Koa Limited. I own one and it is sweet! The tone was beautiful from the getgo and has just gotten better in the last year. It definitely rings differently than your rosewoods. I have the GA body style and was surprised by the bass tone as well. I did change to the Bronze Phosphorous strings and that made a difference on the bass tone. Just wanted to say that i think it is the one of the best examples of the Limited value and distinction. The fact that it was the first Limited series authored by Andy Powers (I think) is a plus. Finally, the Koa is extraordinary and the aesthetics of this guitar have not been matched with anything Taylor has put out since. If you can find one buy it and enjoy! Cheers.
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I am still looking. I actually found an engleman topped one overseas. It's the only one I have seen so far. I have found a couple in shops left but they want a great deal more than I want to spend.
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check davesguitars also, i did not check his listings but he carries a lot of stock-they will "deal" at times also if they know you are truly ready to buy.
i've owned some all koa taylors, they are a unique breed and have a sound all their own. my suggestion is to make sure you have trial period to see if it fits your style.
d
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I am still looking. I actually found an engleman topped one overseas. It's the only one I have seen so far. I have found a couple in shops left but they want a great deal more than I want to spend.
If you're still looking for a 2011 Limited in Koa...I was in Maui in January and Bounty Music had a DN left that sounded great. If I was looking for a Dread, I would have taken her home with me. The tone had already blossomed out of her. If I remember correctly, the price was very nice. Good looking figuring and coloring...