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Taylor Acoustic & Electric Guitars => Taylor Acoustic & Electric Guitars => Topic started by: Guitarless on December 12, 2023, 01:07:57 PM
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After wanting one since their introduction I am finally going to be purchasing a Taylor 517 BE without the electronics.
I have played many of these as well as the 717s in stores and found them all to be pretty consistently exceptional always favoring the slightly warmer and darker tone of the 517. I would buy local, but nobody carries any Taylors without ES around here. Plus I could get one in a couple of days ordering from a dealer with some in stock.
In the forum's opinion, who is a good dealer that makes sure the instruments are well set up and packed securely and provides good customer service?
Do any dealers offer unadvertised discounts?
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....Getting out the popcorn... ;)
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I would contact Taylor CS and tell them what your looking for. Finding one without electronics, but they may have a handle on where they have shipped one, or maybe you can order one from them directly.
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Since the Taylor default is "with electronics" for virtually everything it would have to be a custom order to avoid the factory pickups. I cannot recall the last time I saw a plain acoustic Taylor in a shop -- at least a dozen years ago. And I'm not sure if they will even do that on a Builder's Edition, a limited production run with certain specifications. Calling the mothership will answer all questions, as Toucan said. Note that I said "call". I know it is old fashioned but your question will be one of 1500 random emails that come in in a day.
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Earl is correct!
Contact Taylor: https://www.taylorguitars.com/contact
No electronics? No problem: https://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/features/electronics/no-electronics
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Thanks everybody. Several shops have Builder's Edition 517 and 717s in stock with no electronics. A local shop could order me one but it could take 3 months. I was just wondering what if any shops people have had good luck ordering online from? It's not a question of availability, but what shop to order from.
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I have mostly bought in person locally, from stock. I bought my all-koa 424 LTD from Martin Music in TN. They seem to be a repository of limited editions, and were fine to work with. They were the only place in the US that still had one a year after they first came out. Taylor sent me their contact info when I was seeking who might still have one in 2007.
FWIW my favorite online shop is Elderly Instruments in Lansing, MI, not far from where I grew up. Three of the four Martin guitars that I have owned came from there, one from the custom shop. Tall Toad in Petaluma, CA is also good, as is Gryphon in Palo Alto, CA. I have bought in person from both of them, years ago. Hopefully these are among the shops you have considered. I only mentioned stores where I have bought from, not many others that I have read about. GLWQ (good luck with your quest).
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I can tell you that both Chicago Music Exchange and Dave's Guitars are both excellent with all aspects of the buying experience.
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Elderly, Chicago music Exchange, LA Guitar sales all excellent. Sweet water has a great return policy and have been good to deal with.
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Got one coming my way tomorrow. I will post an NGD once it's all unpacked and I've had some time with it.
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Congrats. Glad you found one. If I can ask, where did you get it from?
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I picked up the 517 w/o electronics (Honeyburst finish) from Sweetwater a couple of years ago. My guitar sounded a little tight and quiet when I first got it, but my custom D28 was the same way when new. I kept playing my 517 regularly, and now it sounds wonderful! It's warm and clear with great dynamics, and plays very nicely! Yesterday I was playing it and came to the conclusion that my guitar has the warm thumpy bass of a good J-45 and the clear sweet trebles of a good Martin - and yet still uniquely Taylor. Mines' a keeper, and I hope you have many good years playing yours!
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I picked up the 517 w/o electronics (Honeyburst finish) from Sweetwater a couple of years ago. My guitar sounded a little tight and quiet when I first got it, but my custom D28 was the same way when new. I kept playing my 517 regularly, and now it sounds wonderful! It's warm and clear with great dynamics, and plays very nicely! Yesterday I was playing it and came to the conclusion that my guitar has the warm thumpy bass of a good J-45 and the clear sweet trebles of a good Martin - and yet still uniquely Taylor. Mines' a keeper, and I hope you have many good years playing yours!
Thanks GP517
It arrived yesterday and I have been playing it a lot since it arrived. It sounded tight when I opened up the box and opened the case for the first time. A little flabby, but after I gave it a good once over to make sure I didn't need to send it back, I began playing vigorously for several hours. To my surprise it woke up quite quickly and is sounding even better today! Looking forward to see how it develops. I agree about it splitting the difference between a J45 and a D28 in a good way. One thing I have to say is that the GP Builders editions have the best neck on any mass market guitar. I love that it is deeper than the typical Taylor or Martin. It fits my hand perfectly.
The only negatives are the strap button location (why!?). That will be moved to the regular spot. And the Elixir strings, while they sound ok they are slippery and I prefer Daddario XT/XS for tone and feel.
May I ask what strings you prefer on your 517? Also if you added a pickup what one did you get?
Keep enjoying your guitar!
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I picked up the 517 w/o electronics (Honeyburst finish) from Sweetwater a couple of years ago. My guitar sounded a little tight and quiet when I first got it, but my custom D28 was the same way when new. I kept playing my 517 regularly, and now it sounds wonderful! It's warm and clear with great dynamics, and plays very nicely! Yesterday I was playing it and came to the conclusion that my guitar has the warm thumpy bass of a good J-45 and the clear sweet trebles of a good Martin - and yet still uniquely Taylor. Mines' a keeper, and I hope you have many good years playing yours!
Thanks GP517
It arrived yesterday and I have been playing it a lot since it arrived. It sounded tight when I opened up the box and opened the case for the first time. A little flabby, but after I gave it a good once over to make sure I didn't need to send it back, I began playing vigorously for several hours. To my surprise it woke up quite quickly and is sounding even better today! Looking forward to see how it develops. I agree about it splitting the difference between a J45 and a D28 in a good way. One thing I have to say is that the GP Builders editions have the best neck on any mass market guitar. I love that it is deeper than the typical Taylor or Martin. It fits my hand perfectly.
The only negatives are the strap button location (why!?). That will be moved to the regular spot. And the Elixir strings, while they sound ok they are slippery and I prefer Daddario XT/XS for tone and feel.
May I ask what strings you prefer on your 517? Also if you added a pickup what one did you get?
Keep enjoying your guitar!
Hello Guitarless! Yes, the strap button.... kind of a pain :) (I read somewhere that the strap button on the heel is required because of the way Taylor attaches it's necks.) I've tried quite a few different strings, and the 517 sounds good with all, but overall the three I like best are the John Pearse PB, Martin SP PB and currently DR Sunbeams PB, all in 13-56. Regarding the tightness of the new guitar, I attribute that more to the initial stiffness of the torrified spruce top than the bracing. But once that torrified top breaks in, boy does it sound good! Warm and loud! Regular vigorous strumming is now your friend (for at least a few months). Once your guitar starts to open up, I think you will find that it has great dynamics and a really, really nice voice. Enjoy your journey with a guitar that will encourage you to play more and become an even better player as the years go by!
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Hello Guitarless! Yes, the strap button.... kind of a pain :) (I read somewhere that the strap button on the heel is required because of the way Taylor attaches it's necks.) I've tried quite a few different strings, and the 517 sounds good with all, but overall the three I like best are the John Pearse PB, Martin SP PB and currently DR Sunbeams PB, all in 13-56. Regarding the tightness of the new guitar, I attribute that more to the initial stiffness of the torrified spruce top than the bracing. But once that torrified top breaks in, boy does it sound good! Warm and loud! Regular vigorous strumming is now your friend (for at least a few months). Once your guitar starts to open up, I think you will find that it has great dynamics and a really, really nice voice. Enjoy your journey with a guitar that will encourage you to play more and become an even better player as the years go by!
Hasn't Taylor been attaching its necks the same way for many years? And yet the new location of the strap button appeared only recently.
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Hello Guitarless! Yes, the strap button.... kind of a pain :) (I read somewhere that the strap button on the heel is required because of the way Taylor attaches it's necks.) I've tried quite a few different strings, and the 517 sounds good with all, but overall the three I like best are the John Pearse PB, Martin SP PB and currently DR Sunbeams PB, all in 13-56. Regarding the tightness of the new guitar, I attribute that more to the initial stiffness of the torrified spruce top than the bracing. But once that torrified top breaks in, boy does it sound good! Warm and loud! Regular vigorous strumming is now your friend (for at least a few months). Once your guitar starts to open up, I think you will find that it has great dynamics and a really, really nice voice. Enjoy your journey with a guitar that will encourage you to play more and become an even better player as the years go by!
Hasn't Taylor been attaching its necks the same way for many years? And yet the new location of the strap button appeared only recently.
Well, in 1992 I purchased a beautiful new Taylor 515 Ltd. Jumbo from a well-known store in Omaha. The guitar did not come with a strap button, and so I asked the seller to put one on. It came back with the strap button in the same spot as the 517 has now. I asked then why that location, and was told that Taylor wouldn't warranty a neck issue if there was a strap button was on the treble side of the neck. On the other hand, I have two Taylor nylon string guitars, and both came from the factory with a strap button on the treble side of the neck like we expect. Perhaps there's a difference between how steel-string necks are attached vs nylon? Beyond that, I'm really not sure.
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With regard to the strap button, I recall Taylor moving its location to that heel spot several years ago, but it was a Powers preference if I recall, and that is it. To my knowledge (and memory) there is zero difference in the NT neck and its connection to the body from its inception in 2000 and today's models; none whatsoever.
Edward