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Bernie

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How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« on: December 25, 2016, 07:23:48 PM »
I'm not sure this is the right place, but still, let's try...
I want to establish how much it costs to get a good guitar in relation to one's income...
I live in France and in the shop in town where they sell Taylor guitars, a 712ce-12 frets costs xx, and a Martin HD-28, xx...
A good singer-musician doing solo acts in bars or restaurants usually gets paid between €50 and €100...
A school teacher for kids up to 12 years old gets around €2000 monthly (after ten years working), and minimal worker's wages is about €1150 per month...
Rents for a (small) 2 rooms flat usually costs from €550 to €600 in a major city - except Paris - monthly (around €450 in smaller towns)...
In relation to these amounts, how much would I pay - in euros (€) if I was american, for let's say a 814ce or a D-28 ?
Thanks for support... 



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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 08:27:01 PM »
Bernie, I did a quick search and Guitar Center says the 814ce is xx which converts to xx EUR.





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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 12:23:53 AM »
Bernie, I did a quick search and Guitar Center says the 814ce is xx which converts to xx EUR.
Wow! GC price is more than the Taylor MSRP!





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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 12:54:09 AM »
Bernie, I did a quick search and Guitar Center says the 814ce is xx which converts to xx EUR.
Wow! GC price is more than the Taylor MSRP!
ThaT one was Brazilian?Sitka =- the regular 814ce is xx




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« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 05:43:23 AM by TaylorGirl »
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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 05:46:11 AM »
Please review the forum rules....no guitar price discussions allowed.
http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=320.0
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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 05:57:50 AM »
Not easy to understand as all I got is "xx" every time a price is mentionned... ???
So basically, with the monthly wages of a school teacher with ten years experience, what Taylor guitar can be bought in the U.S. ?
   -314ce
   -414ce
   -214ce
   -cheaper
   -more expensive ?

Same with a one-month-income of a worker starting a job, or any trade you may do or know of..?

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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 06:34:28 AM »
Not easy to understand as all I got is "xx" every time a price is mentionned... ???

Please review the forum rules....no guitar price discussions allowed.
http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=320.0


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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 10:12:17 AM »
It is not a guitar price discussion : I'm just trying to establish a relation between the cost of living in our respective countries and the price we end up paying fine american guitars here (France), as you would know if you read the thread...
l would like to know what a proportion of  his income must a serious american musician spend to get a fine guitar, in relation to how much we do... I'm not selling or buying any guitar, : but it is something we miss when discussing (on french forums such as Be de B*) what is more relevant between buying a Lowden (Irish guitars), a Taylor or a guitar made by a local luthier for instance (have no need to know the price of a guitar in an american online store, and how much that is in euros - our currency -, as we do have Google  ;)...). 
Don't understand why prices had to be drawn away from this thread.

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Re: How many guitars could I buy if I was american ??!!
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 11:02:58 AM »
It is not a guitar price discussion : I'm just trying to establish a relation between the cost of living in our respective countries and the price we end up paying fine american guitars here (France), as you would know if you read the thread...

I HAVE read this thread, I am a moderator and that is my job.

It is a guitar price discussion when guitar prices are mentioned. We remove guitar prices from all threads, because it is not allowed, per forum rules. As long as guitar prices aren't stated....discuss all you want. We will continue to xx guitar prices that appear.


Don't understand why prices had to be drawn away from this thread.

From the forum rules:
2. Guitar Price discussions are NOT allowed. Price discussions on everything on everything else is allowed.
Please feel free to utilize PM's for guitar pricing discussions, including negotiations for items in the marketplace -
Guitar prices (including MSRP, %'s, options, etc.)will be deleted.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 11:15:49 AM by TaylorGirl »
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Have been finger-pickin' guitar since 1973!