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The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« on: January 19, 2016, 10:04:34 AM »
Unfortunately a bit underwhelming in my opinion... The rosette doesn't seem to fit right (a bit too dark and thin)... I guess I was expecting one of those nice bound Abalone rosettes like the 600, 800 and 900s. Oh well.

https://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/514ce-2016

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 10:13:14 AM »
Guess they think like Martin did for its first century + that mahogany is a working man's wood with no need for fancy embellishment. 
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 10:15:18 AM »
Looks like all the models are up. Can't say I like the looks of the 12 fret 12 strings either. At least no GAS for me this time around.

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 10:22:50 AM »
I know the specs say "tropical mahogany," but the grain looks more like sipo to me.

https://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/552ce-12-fret-2016

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 11:10:46 AM »
Yeah, I'm not blown away by the aesthetics of the new 500 Series...  Seems a bit too plain compared to my 'legacy' 510ce and 556ce, which had just enough 'bling' to set them apart from the entry-level guitars.

I'm also having a bit of trouble wrapping my mind around the sonic advantages of a 12-fret 12-string Grand Concert...? ???  Sure, it's going to be easier to play...  But how good of a strumming instrument will this thing be?  I guess if you're a picker and you want a compact 12-string, here it is; but for strummers like me, meh...

I'll give one of these 552ce/562ce 12-frets a fair shake, once I come across one.  But I expect that, in the end, I'll stick with Taylor's GS-bodied 12-strings; perhaps even a GO-bodied one...
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2016, 12:03:46 PM »
I'm a huge hog fan - and I have advanced the belief that hog guitars should get the same aesthetic attention as their rosewood counterparts (like the 2013 FLTDs). On the other hand, looking at the 2016 514ce harkens me back to the beloved 90s 514ce and brings about a bit of pleasant nostalgia. I imagine that Taylor's latest iteration of the 514ce doesn't sound like its 90s counterpart. So the jury's still out for me until I actually experience one of these personally.
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2016, 12:49:44 PM »
This aesthetic has been Powers' trend since he started changing things up.  On model after model, he has tended (not completely, of course) to move away from the ab rosette toward simpler designs in wood; likewise many of the fb inlays have grown smaller.  Like it or not, it is what it is because he has the baton, per Bob, himself.

One could lament the changes, but I think that's ultimately fruitless since the Taylor line has been heading this way (some would argue as visually "simpler" or "less blingy") for a few years now.  Another way of looking at the changes, both aesthetic and the tonal "revoicings," is that any company must continually reinvent itself if they are to remain in the public eye.  Gibson, Martin, Fender --all have done this since their inception, and no more evidenced than by the vast range of instruments (trends?) what they offer today.  Taylor, the "upstart" in relative terms, likely sees the same.

That said, I look at it somewhat differently: I now value my precious Taylors and RTs even more now that the line has been changing.  I have but one "powers" model, which I very much dig, but it is the previous-gen Ts and RTs that are my absolute keepers.  I suppose a future model "could" jump out at grab me, but thus far, it hasn't happened yet ;)

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 01:37:40 PM »
One thing I noticed is the sound hole binding.  I like that feature, none of my others have that.  I have a few 500 series and actually like the idea of a change from abalone.  Now will the sound be impressive I am not sure, so I must go try them out. ;D
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 02:32:41 PM »
One thing I noticed is the sound hole binding.  I like that feature, none of my others have that.  I have a few 500 series and actually like the idea of a change from abalone.  Now will the sound be impressive I am not sure, so I must go try them out. ;D

Love the sound hole binding - really classes up the instrument.
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2016, 03:27:39 PM »
I don't dislike the new rosette, but I do like the abalone rosette too. My take on it is that I prefer the diamond fretboard markers over the new ones. The new markers seem "busy", while the diamonds have a classic look. Ok, my $.02 worth. Still lovin' mine.
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 04:07:35 PM »
As someone who had been abalone diving many times, I really like it as inlay and rosette.  Hence my choice of a Martin J-40 with big hexagon abalone fingerboard inlays and an abalone rosette when I did a custom build 25 years ago. 

Taylor should not base any decision on my preferences, because I am most likely done buying guitars for this lifetime.  I'm still curious and a fan, of course, just not doing any more than window shopping.  Any additional instruments I might ever buy will either be used (wood) or carbon fiber (in either used or new).
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016, 06:21:44 PM »
At first I was a little surprised by the "thin" rosette, but I think it would look a lot better without the pickguard.  Either way, if it sounds good, then I'll probably be getting one this year.
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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016, 07:45:10 PM »
Interesting opinions.  I like the new look, especially with the darker cedar tops.

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2016, 09:19:53 AM »
"Each to their own" I guess.  I agree that it looks a little ordinary, but that's probably what the market wants.  I seriously doubt that the designers (even someone of Andy's stature) at a company as big as Taylor would have the authority to push what is in essence a new product on to the market, without substantial input from the marketing department.

But wouldn't you agree that maybe we're all just a bit picky?  For most people, a guitar's a guitar - it's only when you take an earnest interest in something that you take note of the subtle differences...

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Re: The new 500s - aesthetics not that great : (
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2016, 09:21:13 AM »
I don't dislike the new rosette, but I do like the abalone rosette too. My take on it is that I prefer the diamond fretboard markers over the new ones. The new markers seem "busy", while the diamonds have a classic look. Ok, my $.02 worth. Still lovin' mine.

That's a fine looking guitar - I love it with no pick-guard...