Author Topic: What do you think would be the best 1-2 punch of current production models?  (Read 3312 times)

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Say you were able to go into a recording studio or relax on some sort of long vacation with two current standard production Taylor guitars (no limited edition or custom models). What would you pick that would give you and the type of music you like to play the best 1-2 punch? What would be your ideal complementary combination?

I'd have to go with:

522 12-fret -- I haven't played one of these but I've played a very, very similar custom model before these came out and it was stellar. Loved the warmer, almost vintage tone.

810 -- Of the new 800 series, I've only played the new 816. It was great but I'm more of a dreadnought guy so I think I'd like the 810.

Seems those two guitars would be a great combination, either to record different parts of songs with or just to play one after another kicking back on a couch or sitting on a porch.
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I have exactly the same experience with my 512 12-fret (cedtop). It's sound is different from all the other Taylors I have (played). Beautiful warm and very articulate. This is really a special guitar! As a fingerstyle guitarist I would certainly take it with me into the studio. Besides that I would like one that gives me a somewhat more holistic sound spectrum. I would have chosen my 714 (I used to compare it to an organ) if I hadn't sold it  :-\ to finance my 512. But luckily my 812 does a good job too. Your 810 would probably be a good choice.
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Interesting topic! I would go with:

1) K24ce - love that Koa looks and tone!
2) 912ce - a perennial favorite :)
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1. 814
2. 514

That would cover it all for me....
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1997 Cujo14 - old growth cedar/black walnut
2014 K24e - master grade koa
2018 Custom GA - bear claw sitka spruce/mahogany
2019 614 - torrified sitka spruce/flamed maple
2020 714 - lutz spruce/rosewood

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1. 814
2. 514

That would cover it all for me....

That would be the top two for me as well.  514 and 814. 
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I would go with a Mahogany 12 fret of some sort with either an Engelmann/Euro Spruce top or Cedar top (1st choice would be the Euro).  Gives you a nice midrange push for fingerstyle with just enough low end to round out the bottom without being boomy.  Easy to record.   A 512 12-fret would fit this bill very nicely, thank you.


For more aggressive strumming and rocking out, I would go Grand Symphony body shape.  The tighter waist at the sound hole gives the tone more clarity while still providing plenty of volume and power when compared to a Dreadnought.  Tonewood wise, that's all personal taste.  For recording or stage work, a lot of people recommend Maple and Sitka - Flat response and minimal overtones to deal with.  Personally, I like the way that Rosewood scoops out a spot from the midrange for my voice.  Top that with Sitka and Adi bracing underneath, and you have an absolutely killer instrument.  616 for the Maple, 816 or 916 for the Rosewood side.


Personally, I have the 12 Fret Fall Ltd from a couple years ago (Quilted Sapele, Euro Spruce w/Adi bracing) for the fingerstyle recording and 916ce with Adi bracing for the strumming and they do wonderfully in the studio.  Easy to mic, easy to record.  Now, that being said -- Over the years I've had equal luck with Cocobolo topped with Sitka, Engelmann or Redwood in big and small bodied instruments.  For years, my "go to" recording guitar was a Cocobolo/Sitka Grand Auditorium built in '02.  It works fine today, but my ear is now leaning toward the warmth in tone that the newer designs provide.  Hence the transition. 


I honestly think it has less to do with the tonewoods and much more to do with the bracing.  There has been a "Coming of Age" for Taylor's tone in the past years - Much more complex and mature to the ear.  They haven't changed the woods they're using.  However, there have been some radical changes to their internal construction techniques that bring about this improvement.  I absolutely love it.
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Hmm...  Well, being primarily a strummer, I'd right off have a 12-string GS; probably my K66ce.  As time has gone on, I find I have a slight preference for that one over my 656ce.

Then I'd grab a 6-string of some kind...  Bit more of a dilemma there...  I strongly favor the GA body for its versatility, but part of me wants to take my Engelmann-topped 510ce just because it would probably be better suited to the songs I'd be playing...  Tossing a coin here (510ce vs. 614ce)...  I'll go with the 510ce.

My answer should, in no way, be construed as an admission that I should sell all my remaining guitars and live with only a K66ce and 510ce for the rest of my life...  ;)
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DN: 360e, 510ce, 510e-FLTD, 810ce-LTD (Braz RW), PS10ce
GA: 414ce, 614ce-LTD, 714ce-FLTD, BR-V, BTO (Makore, 'Wild Grain' RW, Blkwood), GAce-FLTD, K24ce, PS14ce (Coco, Braz RW, "Milagro"), W14ce-LTD
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...for me.
For what I play and how I play, I'm extremely happy with these two Taylors in my stable. They cover everything I need. I'm a very satisfied Taylor owner. Pretty boring huh?
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That's easy...The Two I currently own.  Nope, no kidding. 

1st the 614CE.  So many people who complain that maple is too bright I don't think have ever owned one for more than a month if at all.  Good maple guitars like all open up with time.  To me they are still one of the most 'FULL' sounding woods today but like Koa, they take some time to reach their voicing I think.  The 614, J-200 Gibby, a few others that come to mind.

2nd - The 914 CE...Nuff said there.  This sort of strangely ties in with my thread from last night where I was talking about let's start a new acronym called 'OGD' old guitar day etc...  http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=5450.0
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1st the 614CE.  So many people who complain that maple is too bright I don't think have ever owned one for more than a month if at all.  Good maple guitars like all open up with time.  To me they are still one of the most 'FULL' sounding woods today but like Koa, they take some time to reach their voicing I think.  The 614, J-200 Gibby, a few others that come to mind.

2nd - The 914 CE...Nuff said there.  This sort of strangely ties in with my thread from last night where I was talking about let's start a new acronym called 'OGD' old guitar day etc...  http://www.unofficialtaylorguitarforum.com/index.php?topic=5450.0

I like how you think!


Finger style players:

612 CE cause it articulates wonderfully. I think the quote about maple guitars is spot on.
814 CE cause it is probably the most versatile guitar Taylor makes IMHO.

Strummers:

816 CE cause it is bold and the resonance is just incredible.
814 CE cause it is probably the most versatile guitar Taylor makes IMHO.

If I had to pick only 2:

814 CE cause it is probably the most versatile guitar Taylor makes IMHO.
614 CE cause I  think it would be more versatile then the 612 and I find that maple delivers exactly what I ask for how I ask for it.

I know you asked for only 2 but I get carried away. Just having fun with the fantasy thing.

Paul

Disclaimer: I own the 612 CE and the 816 CE. Yep, I'm biased!

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414CE, covers it all.
355CE, gotta have a 12 string
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For me, the ideal 1-2 guitar pairing would be a GC body (maybe even in 12F) and either a GS or Dred.  This combo would give me subtly and sweetness for quiet play, and also power and punch for more agressive or live use.

a) The GC would have touch-sensitivity and an overall light build, so I'd go for cedar or engelmann.  Body wood should be mahog or maple for more midrange content along with a balanced low end.

b) The DN/GS would be spruce/adi topped.  Not sure what b/s I'd want except that I'd require a large mid-present voice so no RW or otherwise "scooped" mids-tone for me.

Good thread concept!  Not to mention reinforces to me how fortunate a guy I am who already enjoys a great combo!  :D

Edward
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The 2 I have.
814 and 414.
814CE
414CE
516CE
1959 Les Paul Reissue
1960 Les Paul Reissue
2 Modified Stratocasters
and a few others