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Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« on: May 30, 2012, 10:38:13 PM »
Saw this on the AGF and was surprised it wasn't posted here. It's this kind of stuff that makes me want to buy another Taylor next.

For the record I like a little bit of striping in ebony over jet black.

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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 12:06:28 AM »
I totally agree, but... if that truly is Bob and the company's stance on this, they should not charge an upgrade for pure black ebony. It should be luck of the draw. If not, it's simply marketing to remove market barriers at lower price points.




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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 01:35:29 AM »
I totally agree, but... if that truly is Bob and the company's stance on this, they should not charge an upgrade for pure black ebony. It should be luck of the draw. If not, it's simply marketing to remove market barriers at lower price points.
there is an upcharge for the 'higher grade' woods & other
companies charge more for solid black ebony ( & mahogany necks)

'luck-of-the-draw' (12 years ago)

this would probably be considered AA quilt maple (400 series guitar) -
it hasn't been available as a 'regular' BTO option for a good 18 months

upcharges for 'higher grade' woods have been done for a while, based on scarcity & availability &
it goes for all companies & wood suppliers, the difference being Taylor is willing to use what
is perfectly good tonewood that other companies would not (mahogany also comes to mind)

i doubt that a restaurant would put steak on the menu for a set price & serve
one customer a filet & another a sirloin, but they also don't utilize just the filet

ymmv
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 09:29:14 AM »
I think Bob, and Taylor as a company, does a wonderful job trying to educate the public about what actually happens in the wood market.  I have learned a ton from Bob's many videos and articles.  It makes me proud to own a Taylor, or 3.  ;D

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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 10:36:30 AM »
I personally like a little color or striping in a fretboard and won't be a bit disappointed if my BTO arrives in a few weeks with such characteristics. Just think of how much longer the ebony supply in Cameroun will last now that the loggers don't cut down 9 b-grade trees for every 1 a-grade. If someone had taken this kind of responsibility 80 years ago in Brazil, maybe we could still enjoy an abundant supply of Brazilian. Then again, maybe not. The point is that Taylor is stepping up once again and setting a standard for others to follow. One of the many reasons I like them as a company. Nice work, Bob!
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM »
I didn't know that some ebony came striped!  I think that variations/striping in the ebony are gorgeous.  I personally wouldn't want a guitar with dyed woods etc.

I've always appreciated the way Bob and his company have not taken the tone wood supply for granted.
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 10:52:48 AM »
I actually prefer the colored striping in the ebony fretboards! The first pic is a GA3 so the striped ebony came on the guitar, but on the second pic, I actually had to pay extra for Macassar Ebony just so I could get the striping!



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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 10:59:12 AM »
Very, very interesting. I had read a good article about this acquisition in Wood and Steel. The video adds to that story, and spreads the word to those who wouldn't otherwise take the time to read about it. 

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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 02:39:34 PM »
Major thumbs up to Bob & Kurt for striking a common sense balance between commercial market demands and the paramount need for forestry stewardship.  This is not even mentioning the additional benefit of paying the laborers a decent price for the work they do.  Combine this with Taylor's and Martin's efforts in sustainable wood use and efforts in finding suitable man-made materials and more efficient manufacturing processes, and we may actually be able to enjoy these woods for a few extra years.  Nice!

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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 03:12:08 PM »
I applaud the Taylor company for this effort.  I would say that all guitars with grade A ebony have just increased in value.
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »
I think that Bob has once again hit it out of the park. I love wood in all colors and grains. I don't care if my ebony is pure black or not, as long as it's ebony. Here's some Macassar ebony on my 2011 BTO- so pretty that it needs no inlays:


 
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 09:18:24 PM »
Thumbs up for Bob.   :) :)
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 09:48:39 PM »
Wow! Cut 10 to get one good one?  :o  That is terrible.  >:(

Good on ya Bob!  I, for one, won't be complaining in any variance in any ebony in my future.
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2012, 08:27:03 AM »
I knew there was a lot of waste in harvesting ebony, but I had no idea just how much. That's appalling. It's about time someone took the reigns and put a stop to it. Thanks, Bob. In the future we're going going to need the same sort of stances from instrument makers for probably every kind of tonewood used. This was a courageous thing to do. It was a very large investment to protect a resource that was headed for trouble, and to protect it for everyone....it could be a very unpopular one with certain people, but it was one that somebody had to take in order to preserve the sustainable ebony supplies we have left that can still legally be gathered. Without it, in a few years we'd all be sitting around saying "Remember when we could get real ebony for guitarmaking?"

Thanks, Bob...for being willing to step up and put so much of your own skin into the game.
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Re: Bob Taylor talks ebony in this great new video
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2012, 02:07:26 PM »
"Good stewards..." 
Yet another of the umpteen reasons I love Taylor guitars, the company, and the business model they live.  Bob, Kurt and the legacy they have created and continue to nurture are a real treasure: not just to musicians, not just to the industry, but to big-business at large.  A true breath of fresh air in a world of politically-motivated junk-science and eco-extremism.  Talk about walking the walk.

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