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Taylor 814ce ES2 Pickup System
Edward:
Hi Ade,
I'm glad your tone is getting closer to what you like! The bass cut at 80Hz is good (I assume is a HPF on the mixer), and if you want more "tight" bass you can still use the HPF at 80Hz and boost a little bit at 100Hz for a "focused" low end that still keeps the guitar's voice clear.
Every mixer/PA is a bit different so continue to experiment with mild boosts and cuts, but most of the time, cutting frequencies is much better than boosting. Glad your ES2 is sounding better! Personally, while the ES2 is certainly not my favorite system, I find I can get it to sound fairly good live. :)
Edward
Ade:
Hi
i have read other Threats about ES2 System and i know i not alone with the same problem.
I try many positions on EQ and also from Edward recommend 400 - 500 decrease and 900 - 1.2 khz decrease. It is a good recommend. I used a 10 Band EQ. Only my Mixer Dynacord PM 1000 with parametric Mid is now so i mean and listen Hi turn a little less, mid by 500hz more less and Bass a little bit more. Further use the Button for cut 80hz and voice filter.
The important step was I turn on the Pickup 3 Inpuss screws on sattle all return to low contact. And turn all 3 Pickups into same loudness. I a little difficult. The Bass Strings E and A had bevor to much Pickup Feedback.
It is now a little quitter but i get now a acceptable result. PA Box is a EV 15/3.
Many Thanks on all Taylor Friends.
Ade, from Bavarian
nickcapfl:
I have 3 Taylors with the ES-2 system and struggle with all of them. I have a more percussive style of playing and I always use a pick and found that the ES-2 picks up not only noise from my pick, but also from my finger nails and palm, a screechy noise.
For my 814ce, I found that it worked best when I loosened the middle pickup bringing its volume down to match or be slightly below the bass and treble pickups. Leveling the pickups really helped to reduce the noise I was getting and allowed me to fix the rest with the EQ. I agree with the EQ settings others have recommended for my 814ce.
I was not so lucky with my GS Mini or my 562ce 12-string. I do not think that the ES-2 works well for short scale guitars. I just could not beat the noise, even with adjustments. For these guitars, I worked with Taylor and they sent me an UST to replace the ES-2 transducers. The UST worked perfectly with the ES-t eq that was already installed in the guitars. I just left the ES-2 in the holes so both options are available and the only modification was the small hole for the UST.
I am now finally happy with the plugged in sounds from my GS Mini and my 562ce. I have left the ES-2 in my 814ce for now, but may convert it to UST in the future.
Earl:
Nick, I'm glad that Taylor took care of you and sent a functional replacement pickup that works. This is the first time I've heard about potential issues with shorter scale guitars. That is interesting.
I've made no secret of being totally underwhelmed with ES2 in every way. But they simply cannot admit that it isn't working well for most of us. I will not buy any Taylor guitar, new or used, if it has ES2. (I know that you CAN order without pickups, but I prefer to play before pay). And I always caution folks that send their instrument back to the mothership for repairs. No matter how hard they try to upsell the "upgrade", absolutely DON'T let them replace your existing pickup with ES2 while they have it.
Edward:
I've said it many times --perhaps too many-- that I can EQ the ES2 on my dred to sound decent live, but it will never be a choice of mine, ever. For me, it is ES1.3 first, then ES1.2 is acceptable. Beyond that, I'd rather have a Taylor without any system, and merely pop in the Baggs pickup of my choice.
But these ES1 guitars are narrow-model-year choices which limits me quite a bit. Which is all the more reason I stick with what I got (and am uber-thankful for them), and by and large "done" with any other acoustic purchase unlesssss I see something that ultimately checks all the right boxes for me. Sorry as that was a bit OT, but heck, it's a slow morning! :)
Edward
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