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Title: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: erwinem on December 29, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
If I were to put light strings on a GS mini, as opposed to to the recommended mediums, would it still sound good?
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: sergeko on December 29, 2017, 11:23:42 AM
The Mini was designed with medium gauge strings in mind.
With light strings, the top will move less so the impact on the sound will be huge : less volume and less "fullness".
But whether or not you like it is very personal.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: erwinem on December 29, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Guitarsan on December 29, 2017, 09:32:27 PM
Perhaps more importantly the Mini is a short scale guitar and lights would feel and play very slinky.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: TaylorGirl on December 30, 2017, 05:46:59 AM
I agree with the previous posters. I'd suggest giving the mediums a chance. You might be pleasantly surprised with how nice they feel, because of the shorter scale. The sound, volume, and tension is better with the mediums, IMHO.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: cc7 on December 30, 2017, 07:56:19 AM
I tried that - sound was pretty sad.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Frettingflyer on December 30, 2017, 03:13:20 PM
We have lights on the Koa mini for my wife, I think it is fine with mediums, but it still sounds good with the lights, just not quite as good. If it helps to get or keep someone playing I think it is worth it, but the guitar feels good with mediums IMO.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: SoCalSurf on December 31, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
I just bought a new GS Mini Koa and was thinking about putting light strings on it as well when I saw this thread. So great timing.

I very much admire the knowledge of the folks on this forum and have made many decisions based on their feedback.

Since I am in the unique situation of owning two GS mini koas-- more on that later, I guess  :)--  I thought I would experiment with this directly. So I put some Martin Acoustic Sp Custom Lights (.011-.052) on my older mini. I have fell in love with those strings and they are on all of my full-sized guitars. On my new mini are the factory Elixir medium strings. I recorded a video of me playing the exact thing on both guitars to compare the difference. First I did fingerstyle, then I strummed.

Surprisingly, I found no volume differences between the strings. As a matter of fact, the lights actually sounded a bit louder while strumming, which surprised me very much. I still prefer the sound of the lights so I will likely put those on my new mini when I upgrade it with Gotoh 510 mini tuners and replace the bridge pins with abalone ebony pins. The tuners arrive next week.

I don't claim that this was a perfectly conducted scientific experiment (that's what I do in my real job), but I found the comparisons interesting.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: BigSkyTaylorPlayer on January 01, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
I put lights on my mini and my 516.  Since I’m mostly a mandolin player those medium strings were really hard on my fingers...yeah I could power thru it but I just want to have fun when I pick up my guitar.

Though I’m sure there is some change I didn’t notice a huge difference and my fingertips thanked me.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: bukarew on January 01, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
I put lights on several guitars, including my GS mini Hog and my 514ce...I don't hear much difference in tone and still get compliments on how good they sound.  They are so much easier to play.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: HAPPYDAN on January 01, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
I put Elixir Lights on my HV Mini 2 years ago, and stuck with them. It did need a new set up (truss rod, saddle shave) to get the intonation right, but to me still sounds the same as with mediums. Much easier on the fingertips this way.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: pjroberts on January 02, 2018, 06:44:08 PM
I just bought a new GS Mini Koa and was thinking about putting light strings on it as well when I saw this thread. So great timing.

I very much admire the knowledge of the folks on this forum and have made many decisions based on their feedback.

Since I am in the unique situation of owning two GS mini koas-- more on that later, I guess  :)--  I thought I would experiment with this directly. So I put some Martin Acoustic Sp Custom Lights (.011-.052) on my older mini. I have fell in love with those strings and they are on all of my full-sized guitars. On my new mini are the factory Elixir medium strings. I recorded a video of me playing the exact thing on both guitars to compare the difference. First I did fingerstyle, then I strummed.

Surprisingly, I found no volume differences between the strings. As a matter of fact, the lights actually sounded a bit louder while strumming, which surprised me very much. I still prefer the sound of the lights so I will likely put those on my new mini when I upgrade it with Gotoh 510 mini tuners and replace the bridge pins with abalone ebony pins. The tuners arrive next week.

I don't claim that this was a perfectly conducted scientific experiment (that's what I do in my real job), but I found the comparisons interesting.

I hope this helps.
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It's not about volume, it's tone. And IMO the tone hit is significant, though I also have noticed some people just don't pay close attention to subtle tonal changes. I actually wouldn't call the GSM light vs medium difference "subtle", but if I went back to my less experienced days I would not have forfeited playability for deeper, richer tone. Today, no way. It really comes down to the individual obviously, and we all know this is totally subjective.

However, a GSM with mediums is way easier on the fingers than a full scale length guitar, so it's not too much of a sacrifice to give the recommended strings a fair trial with a full string life. Especially as the strings age a little bit, you may find them easier to play.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Guitargeak99 on January 09, 2018, 10:09:25 PM
I’ve gone back and forth between light and mediums, and I just don’t feel much of a difference in playability. I had this guitar set up by a luthier, and both size strings play easy on this guitar. I don’t even have to tweak the truss rod when switching sizes. To my ear the light strings don’t quite put out the bass volume, but the overall tone is more focused - I like it.
I use John Pearse PB.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: sergeko on January 29, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
I put lights on several guitars, including my GS mini Hog and my 514ce...I don't hear much difference in tone and still get compliments on how good they sound.  They are so much easier to play.


For the 514ce, the recommended string gauge is light, not medium, unlike the GS mini.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Gjtalis on January 31, 2018, 12:57:57 AM
I literally just tried a set of lights on my mini 3 hours ago out of curiosity and...... I’m going back to the mediums.  Volume and sound was fine but I didn’t like the way they felt, to “mushy” if that makes sense
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: beedee on December 14, 2018, 11:06:38 AM
I have a radial nerve problem in my left hand and have great difficulty barring and stretching problem in fretting chords etc due to the weakness in it. I have persevered with 13s but to no avail ! The action causes me no amount of problems ! Could any of you excellent guitarists advise me if having the strings changed down to 11s and the action lowered would solve any of these problems!! I thank you all in advance for any kind replies and advice !!
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: cc7 on December 14, 2018, 12:08:28 PM
The good news is that it will play easier. The bad news is it won't sound very good - I tried it once.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Guitargeak99 on December 17, 2018, 10:20:51 PM
I think each guitar model is very different with regards to how they respond to strings.
My spruce top GS sounds better with lights, and plays like a dream.
However, I cannot do any “down tunings” - the strings are too flimsy.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Frettingflyer on December 20, 2018, 10:34:53 PM
Maybe have the action lowered first, then see if that doesn’t solve your issue? A setup can really change the way a guitar plays. Then switch to lighter strings if you still need to?
Good luck,
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: DenverSteve on December 21, 2018, 11:50:15 AM
To me the answer is - only you can tell. Many, many.....many people use light strings on GS Minis and love it.  Your experience may, or may not, be the same.  It's a short experiment and will cost you around $25 - if you decide to immediately switch back.  Fortunately, this is the same procedure for every guitar owned by every guitar player.  The first thing I do with new guitars is to experiment with the 6 or 7 different string sets that I like on various guitars and judge whether any of them sound, TO ME, better than the stock strings.  Then the result of that experiment becomes the new baseline for that guitar.  Have fun experimenting.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: Earl on December 21, 2018, 12:10:26 PM
My wife used light gauge strings on her GS Mini mahogany, and even tuned down to Open G (DGDGBD).  She was happy with the easy playability.  If there was a noticeable loss of tone, I don't recall (it's been a couple of years now).  Mini also sounded OK the few times it was ever in standard tuning.

First thing I would try is to put the lights on then tune down a half step across the board to Eb.  That will be about the lightest tension you can get without going to electric guitar string gauges, and it is easily reversible.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: AmericanEagle on December 25, 2018, 10:21:46 AM
I put lights on my GS Mini mahogany.
Still sounds great, and is easier to play!
Medium strings hurt my fingers and tire my hand quicker.
Title: Re: Light strings on a GS mini
Post by: imorroy on February 17, 2019, 02:02:10 AM
I switched to lights strings today. So much easier to play. I sacrificed some volume in the bass strings, which is fine since I usually play plugged in.