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Title: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Raven on January 02, 2012, 04:49:58 PM
The new 700's look sweet !!!!!! Nice inlays to boot !!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150498910317232&set=a.252363442231.138105.13839982231&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150498910317232&set=a.252363442231.138105.13839982231&type=1&theater)
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: InsideOut on January 02, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
If that guitar was anything but a 700 series guitar, I would like it.  As a 700, I don't like it.  I am stuck on the 700s having the dark binding (rosewood or black plastic).  We can't tell yet, but if the 714-CE doesn't have a cedar top, it is definitely wrong.  What can I say, I am old-fashioned and the 700s are my favorite.  I guess I will be saying good-by to my old friends.  So long 700s  :'(.  At least I have my trusty '98 714-CE.  Together we will morn the loss of a gem in Taylor history.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: thedak on January 02, 2012, 05:32:49 PM
They look fantastic.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Raven on January 02, 2012, 05:52:33 PM
If that guitar was anything but a 700 series guitar, I would like it.  As a 700, I don't like it.  I am stuck on the 700s having the dark binding (rosewood or black plastic).  We can't tell yet, but if the 714-CE doesn't have a cedar top, it is definitely wrong.  What can I say, I am old-fashioned and the 700s are my favorite.  I guess I will be saying good-by to my old friends.  So long 700s  :'(.  At least I have my trusty '98 714-CE.  Together we will morn the loss of a gem in Taylor history.

Looks like they ditched the abalone rosette as well ........ To me it looks like a more traditional look they are going after here ... I am wondering if that is white binding or Ivoroid ? If it is Ivoroid I like that ..... Not sure if I am liking it as a rosette though ... I guess I will have to hold one to make a finale yay or ney .......
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: SoloTaylor on January 02, 2012, 07:02:43 PM
They look sweet! I want the 12 string. :)
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: michaelw on January 02, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
to me, it looks much closer to the original 700 series,
but with white binding & more intricate fretboard inlays -
at first, i thought it might have been a 400 series LTD ???
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: John429 on January 02, 2012, 08:30:31 PM
Very beautiful guitars and attractive bursts! Like Raven, I personally would miss having an abalone rosette though. On another note, as someone who likes to take photos of guitars, I'm wondering how they got that 12 string to stand up like that - I don't see any sign of a support.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6439253921_49cec98590.jpg)
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: byrd on January 02, 2012, 10:21:55 PM
I'm glad I just got my "soon to be old" 714.  I was never a fan of the white binding, in fact, the rosewood binding is one of the things that I thought really made the 700s stand out.  I like the abalone rosette better too.  I'd assume that, just like the current 700s, the burst will be an option.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: jalbert on January 02, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
I'm wondering how they got that 12 string to stand up like that - I don't see any sign of a support.

Photoshop! Look at the shadows. They don't seem consistent from guitar to guitar.

On an unrelated note, it would seem that there is an aesthetic influence from the Steven Curtis Chapman Signature Model, which if I recall correctly was based on a 714.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Justiceandmercy on January 03, 2012, 05:22:23 AM
...maybe they get a cv bracing upgrade as well?... but I for one so far like the changes... don't know if it would make me want to pull the trigger on one tho
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Steely Glen on January 03, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
The key factor to me would be the cedar top.  I think Taylor's cedar/rw combo (especially in GA body) is simply magic, so as long as they keep that going, there will always be a draw for me to the 700 series.  Being that I already have a stellar 714ce, it won't really matter.  But there is still a lot of unknowns here. 
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: mescobar on January 03, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
I'm glad I just got my "soon to be old" 714.  I was never a fan of the white binding, in fact, the rosewood binding is one of the things that I thought really made the 700s stand out.  I like the abalone rosette better too.  I'd assume that, just like the current 700s, the burst will be an option.

I'm in agreement with you byrd! I'd like some abalone at that price point. While I can appreciate that the white binding makes a nice contrast with the burst, I just can't seem to understand the lack of a nicer rosette. Unless they are going to drop the base price to a more reasonable price (due to lack of bling) I'm going to look right passed them.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: John429 on January 03, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
I'm wondering how they got that 12 string to stand up like that - I don't see any sign of a support.

Photoshop! Look at the shadows. They don't seem consistent from guitar to guitar.


Yeah - I think you're right about that.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Jannie on January 03, 2012, 05:51:20 PM
It's a studio shot, monofiliment from the 12 string to a grip arm overhead, yes of course it's Photoshoped, all commercial images are finished in Photoshop or some other softwear, that's the way it's designed to work now with digital imaging, and it's not a sin and it isn't cheating, we rarely use film now but we manipulated that in processing and printing as well.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: bo1142 on January 03, 2012, 06:15:16 PM
I like the looks of the new 700's, but will they still sound awesome....probably ;D
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: darylcrisp on January 04, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
i like the look.
make mine a 12 fret GA in standard scale, no pickguard.
would love a 1 13/16" nut.

d
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Hank T. Tone on January 04, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
No offense to anyone, but I'm glad I got my 714ce natural finish cedar top when I did. It's a great guitar, and great looking. As pretty as sunburst is, I've never understood why anyone would cover up a beautiful natural wood finish. 
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: michaelw on January 04, 2012, 08:19:07 PM
natural tops are nice :D

714ceLTD cedar/koa                                                                     716ceLTD madagascar with 'sitkarondack' top
(http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/41941/2664470570081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)(http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/42463/2062161630081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
imho, this looks nice, too
714cLTD cocobolo
(http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/8732/2863956580081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
no offense, taken :)

these have since left the stable & moved on to greener pastures
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: bo1142 on January 04, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
No offense to anyone, but I'm glad I got my 714ce natural finish cedar top when I did. It's a great guitar, and great looking. As pretty as sunburst is, I've never understood why anyone would cover up a beautiful natural wood finish.

To each his own, I guess.  That's the beauty of guitars.  I say the same thing about people who use steak sauce, instead of enjoying the true flavor of the steak, but that's just me.  I see where you're coming from, but I love a good burst, and Taylor has been really good at them over the past few years.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: dsamuel24 on January 04, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
If in fact the image on the FB page is of the new 700 series (and I have no reason to believe it is not), I am NOT a fan. 2 things ruin it for me: 1) WHITE binding... dude, the 700 was MEANT for dark/rosewood binding all the way, and that is one of the best things that has always made it stand out from other models, and 2) 200/300/400 series rosette... double dude, what a waste of space on an otherwise beautiful guitar. And this coming from a guy who OWNS a 615ce with white binding (which I love on my 615), and who OWNS a 315ce with a plain rosette (and I think it's perfect for my utilitarian 315)... but NOT on a 7xx.

It has been said before, by several other UTGF'ers, but I +1 all the comments about the white/light binding and the plain rosette being BAD choices for a series that has always been among the best looking Taylors; a perfect compromise of simplicity and bling. Now, it appears to be just a plain ole' compromise.  :(
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Strumming Fool on January 04, 2012, 08:42:02 PM
The new 700s appear to have matching maple binding and rosette. I do like the fretboard inlay pattern. However, I too will miss that rosewood binding with pinstripe. Maybe they changed the binding because they went back to rosewood binding on the 900s, but then again, the 800 series already features maple binding as well. In any case, my plans for buying a 714 as my next guitar may have changed. I might have to go the BTO route. I'll wait and see what other changes Taylor has in store for 2012, before making a final judgment.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: michaelw on January 04, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
perhaps the style was inspired a bit by the original 700s ???
first year production 710 (3 ring rosette, black binding, large MOP fretmarkers)
(http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/25848/2292386540081788860S600x600Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Jannie on January 05, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
I love the look of a cedar top, I'm hoping they are offering an either or choice as to whether you get the sunburst or not. There are beautiful sunburst guitars but I don't think I want to own one, it still feels like a paint job covering up what was already beautiful and natural.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Cindy on January 05, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
I love the look of a cedar top, I'm hoping they are offering an either or choice as to whether you get the sunburst or not. There are beautiful sunburst guitars but I don't think I want to own one, it still feels like a paint job covering up what was already beautiful and natural.

It would be nice if they'd offer a cedar top with the edgeburst which would make it look less like an 8xx-9xx guitar.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Iplay2 on January 05, 2012, 05:56:13 PM
I love the look of a cedar top, I'm hoping they are offering an either or choice as to whether you get the sunburst or not. There are beautiful sunburst guitars but I don't think I want to own one, it still feels like a paint job covering up what was already beautiful and natural.

I agree.  I love cedar tops, and I don't think I would want a burst to cover it up. 
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Steve on January 06, 2012, 07:26:19 PM
I like these. I like these a lot.

I like the new inlay; very classy.

Andy Powers looks to have been quite busy lately!
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: The Wink on January 07, 2012, 09:19:21 AM
This is my first post on this forum after leaving AGF. I'm a 700 series guy. I love the combo of cedar/rosewood. I know other companies have made them, and from old posts I know that Taylor has made at least one 12 string cedar/rosewood guitar. Maybe that's what we are going to see. I'm sure it's just wishful thinking, but this would make my day. 714 series with maple binding, choice of top color in cedar, and a cedar topped 12 string.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Jannie on January 07, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
Interesting change, it bothered me at first because the 714ce is one of my fantasy I want guitars with the cedar top, but I was visiting my local Dusty Strings acoustic guitar store and noticed quite a few more cedar top guitars from the likes of Goodall, Collings and others, I'm sure Taylor has other wonderful offerings coming and I doubt as consumers we'll loose, it's just change to keep the market interested. I have to admit, for painted guitars, these look really nice.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Strumming Fool on January 07, 2012, 10:16:08 AM
Just because these guitars are pictured with a sunburst finish doesn't mean that the 714 will no longer have a cedar top. I'm sure that cedar will also be offered as a "modify a model" option as well.  I could go for a 714 with either an engelmann or cedar top as I think they both sound great with rosewood (or walnut or mahogany for that matter).
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: ataylor on January 07, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
I'd like to see these kinds of appointments as an option for the non-cutaway acoustic series as well.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Strumming Fool on January 07, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
I'd like to see these kinds of appointments as an option for the non-cutaway acoustic series as well.

Couldn't agree more. I wish Taylor would go back to having one ce series, where you could order the guitar with or without a cutaway, and with or without the electronics. If that were the case, I'd order a 714 (with current appointments - not the new ones) without the cutaway, and maybe with a tobacco sunburst finished engelmann top.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: ataylor on January 08, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
Couldn't agree more. I wish Taylor would go back to having one ce series, where you could order the guitar with or without a cutaway, and with or without the electronics. If that were the case, I'd order a 714 (with current appointments - not the new ones) without the cutaway, and maybe with a tobacco sunburst finished engelmann top.

I've thought that as well -- it would be less confusing to go back to the standard 500, 600, 700, etc series names across the board. Part of the reason for the distinction may be the fact that the acoustic series guitars are supposedly built slightly different than the cutaway acoustic/electric models (not to mention the different appointments) but I think they could still do that and keep them under the same name. Further confusing things is the fact that they still offer the non-cutaway 810 and 910 models under the old names and have the 100/200 series with cutaway and non-cutaway models...

Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: sachi on January 08, 2012, 07:52:57 PM
I'm intrigued by the new design, but I've been waffling on posting about 'em because I just wasn't sure whether I liked it or not. I think that although I tend to prefer simple appointments – which the new 700s seem to have – I think that burst just does not mesh well with the white rosette ring. I wonder what a clear finish would look like with that rosette? We'll see.
Title: Re: The New 700's !!!!!!! hmmmmmm
Post by: Strumming Fool on January 09, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
I'm intrigued by the new design, but I've been waffling on posting about 'em because I just wasn't sure whether I liked it or not. I think that although I tend to prefer simple appointments – which the new 700s seem to have – I think that burst just does not mesh well with the white rosette ring. I wonder what a clear finish would look like with that rosette? We'll see.

I still believe that Taylor would not sunburst-finish a whole series on their ce line. Although I'm a sunburst fan, I think that such a move would drive many away from the 700s and into the 800s. Taylor will probably continue to offer the 700s in the same way they offer the 500-900s, with topwood (cedar, sitka or engelmann) and finish (sunburst and natural) options.