Unofficial Taylor Guitar Forum - UTGF

The Lounge => The Lounge => Topic started by: jjrpilot-admin on December 19, 2011, 11:23:14 AM

Title: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on December 19, 2011, 11:23:14 AM
We can obviously keep the "Welcome" sub forum.

I want honest opinions here.  Should we just go back to the "general" section?  The sub forums in place a still growing but slowly...which isn't a problem at all.

Should we consolidate the current sub forums into smaller number? Or should we keep everything as is?

- Josh
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: DennisG on December 19, 2011, 11:58:31 AM
I think most of the sub-forums are fine.  But I would lose the "Pickup Systems" and "Acoustics, BTO's, LTD's".  Topics in those sub-forums seem redundant with what's in the general sub-forum.
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: Steely Glen on December 19, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Sub-forums help to specify the topics of discussion, but over-doing it may create confusion and redundancies.  I would fold the BTO/LTD thread back into General.  The Pickup Systems could go or stay in my opinion.  I do have to say that creating a specific sub-forum for the Expression System (since it is distinctively Taylor) would be cool, but that would probably be confusing if there's also another Pickup Systems sub-forum. 
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: michaelw on December 19, 2011, 12:21:17 PM
hi Josh,

it may seem like a lot of work (& i'd be willing to help), but perhaps for a while, continuing to move
the older threads from the General area to their respective sections would be worth considering -
it does seem that most activity is in the General section because everyone's used to the 'living room'

also perhaps reconfiguring the Acoustic Pick Up subforum & expanding it to cover T5, T3 & SB models,
along with their amps, rigs & set ups ... kind of like an Electric/Amplifed (with acoustic pick ups)
i don't know if that would get too confusing, but it might be nice to have a bit more room for guitars

just a thought
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: DMBfan41 on December 19, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
hi Josh,

it may seem like a lot of work (& i'd be willing to help), but perhaps for a while, continuing to move
the older threads from the General area to their respective sections would be worth considering -
it does seem that most activity is in the General section because everyone's used to the 'living room'

also perhaps reconfiguring the Acoustic Pick Up subforum & expanding it cover T5, T3 & SB models,
along with their amps, rigs & set ups ... kind of like an  Electric/Amplifed (with acousic pick ups)
i don't know if that would get too confusing, but it might be nice to have a bit more room for guitars

just a thought


What he said. 
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: Iplay2 on December 19, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
hi Josh,

it may seem like a lot of work (& i'd be willing to help), but perhaps for a while, continuing to move
the older threads from the General area to their respective sections would be worth considering -
it does seem that most activity is in the General section because everyone's used to the 'living room'

also perhaps reconfiguring the Acoustic Pick Up subforum & expanding it cover T5, T3 & SB models,
along with their amps, rigs & set ups ... kind of like an  Electric/Amplifed (with acousic pick ups)
i don't know if that would get too confusing, but it might be nice to have a bit more room for guitars

just a thought


I agree also.  Just make it into a pickup/electric section.

I would also be fine with losing the Acoustic BTO/ LTD section - I'm never sure if I should post acoustic stuff in the general section or the Acoustic section.  Other than that, this is a fantastic place!
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: gdeleo on December 19, 2011, 12:51:21 PM
Josh,

I like it the way it is at least for now since the site is new.  It is fun to see where everyone is coming from. 
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: bo1142 on December 19, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
I would lose the acoustic and pickup subforum.  Keep everything else as is.
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: markallen on December 19, 2011, 03:05:17 PM
+1  Yup, I agree with this.

Keep up the great work Josh! (Way to go Michael for jumping in to help!)

hi Josh,

it may seem like a lot of work (& i'd be willing to help), but perhaps for a while, continuing to move
the older threads from the General area to their respective sections would be worth considering -
it does seem that most activity is in the General section because everyone's used to the 'living room'

also perhaps reconfiguring the Acoustic Pick Up subforum & expanding it cover T5, T3 & SB models,
along with their amps, rigs & set ups ... kind of like an  Electric/Amplifed (with acousic pick ups)
i don't know if that would get too confusing, but it might be nice to have a bit more room for guitars

just a thought

Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: andyi5 on December 19, 2011, 04:22:37 PM
I agree too, and I'm finding the sub forums a bit slow to navigate, especially if the connection speed is slow as it sometimes can be where I live. It really amounts to having to check a few different forums. It's also easy to miss things - for instance there's one thread about the GS mini posted in the BTO section. I think if all of this came into the main living room it would make for a very interesting main page, with a variety of interesting posts and discussions coming in.
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: Gary0319 on December 19, 2011, 04:35:25 PM
I'll add my vote for rolling the BTO, etc forum into the main section, and reconfig the Pickups section to include amps, live sound etc.

Keep up the good work Josh, looking fine.

Gary
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: darylcrisp on December 19, 2011, 04:38:38 PM
i agree with the others, stick the bto and ltd in the general and have a sub forum for the electric stuff.

d
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: Edward on December 19, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
i agree with the others, stick the bto and ltd in the general and have a sub forum for the electric stuff.

d

Same here.

And thanks for your constant attention, Josh!

Edward
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on December 19, 2011, 06:20:56 PM
Hi dear Friends!

THE PEOPLE have spoken!!!   ;D

Once again, I want this forum to reflect you!

Thanks for being patient as we tweak this and that.

1. The "acoustic/LTD, BTO etc" sub-forum has been deleted, and all topics have been merged into the "general" sub-forum.

2. The "pickup" sub-forum has also been deleted and all topics have been moved to the "general" sub-forum.

We now have only 6 sub-forums for you all to navigate.  Deleting 2 sub-forums will make it easier to post, and easier to keep up with.  It will and should help to really bring our "family/community" closer together etc.

I hope this makes it easier for you all.  Thanks for everything!!!   :)
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: andyi5 on December 19, 2011, 06:28:58 PM
Hey good job Josh! Was gonna post I noticed you'd done it but you already have!

One other thought that's just arisen - the other forum has a longer main page allowing for I think 30 entries, and given that all "stickies" weren't on the Taylor page, it basically means 30 entries of new incoming posts, slowing the rate at which things drop off the front page. However the main Taylor page on UTGF has about 5 stickies, then space for about 15 other posts before it goes to page 2. This is a nice problem to have as it shows how popular the forum's become, but if the Taylor Guitar's page is to be people's main access point it may be good to extend the number of entries lengthwise. If this creates a problem though in terms of the design, no worries. You're doing a fine job with this.
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on December 19, 2011, 06:40:23 PM
Hey good job Josh! Was gonna post I noticed you'd done it but you already have!

One other thought that's just arisen - the other forum has a longer main page allowing for I think 30 entries, and given that all "stickies" weren't on the Taylor page, it basically means 30 entries of new incoming posts, slowing the rate at which things drop off the front page. However the main Taylor page on UTGF has about 5 stickies, then space for about 15 other posts before it goes to page 2. This is a nice problem to have as it shows how popular the forum's become, but if the Taylor Guitar's page is to be people's main access point it may be good to extend the number of entries lengthwise. If this creates a problem though in terms of the design, no worries. You're doing a fine job with this.

Good call Andyi5!  I know that the "general" sub-forum has about 5 "stickies"...and I promise not to fill up the "general" section up with "stickies."  I did however increase the topics count from 20 topics to 40 topics.  It brought down the page count down from 6 pages to only 3 pages currently.  Yes, the pages will be a bit longer, but you all should be able to get a good look at all the hot topics.   ;D
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: andyi5 on December 19, 2011, 06:59:48 PM
Fantastic, I think that'll work just great. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: michaelw on December 19, 2011, 07:12:21 PM
hi Josh,

i'm looking around & with the pickup section gone, it seems like all gear
(acoustic & electric, picks up, amps, set-ups & rigs) is in the general section

just looking to see the general 'flow of things' is & what would
provide some separation/definition to make finding things easier -
by nature, the subforums will vary in size,  but having all related
discussions in an area, with some separation & minimal overlap
will make it a bit easier if one is searching for something specific

perhaps

Welcome
General (the company, the innovations, the artists - less gear emphasis)
Acoustic & all related acoustic gear (pick ups, amps etc) with NTGD pics
Electric & all related electric gear (pick ups, amps, etc) with NTGD pics
Live (lessons, recording, live sound, repairs, how to's - less gear emphasis)
Trading Post/Swap Shop (sell it, buy it, want it, beg, borrow or steal it ;) )
Lounge (just a place to where one can relax & 'kick-it')

there'd be one more subforum (total of 7), but it would allow the
acoustic & electric (with related gear)  to have their own areas,
rather than having all things guitar & gear in one subforum ...
or, perhaps one subforum for all guitar (& NGTD) & another for 'the gear'

just a thought
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: Cindy on December 19, 2011, 10:34:38 PM
I'm not sure we really need a separate sub-forum for New Guitar Day. I like Michael's suggestions except if there is a separate Acoustic sub-forum, I'd like to see the General sub-forum removed. That would leave us with:

-Welcome
-Acoustics (gear/accessories)
-Electrics (gear/accessories)
-Recordings, Repairs, How to's
-Marketplace
-Lounge

I'd also remove the name of "Lessons" as that would be considered a part of "How-to's" and leave off "Accessories" since that could merge with either Acoustics or Electrics (whichever category is appropriate).
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question..........
Post by: John429 on December 19, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
Hi dear Friends!

THE PEOPLE have spoken!!!   ;D

Once again, I want this forum to reflect you!

Thanks for being patient as we tweak this and that.

1. The "acoustic/LTD, BTO etc" sub-forum has been deleted, and all topics have been merged into the "general" sub-forum.

2. The "pickup" sub-forum has also been deleted and all topics have been moved to the "general" sub-forum.

We now have only 6 sub-forums for you all to navigate.  Deleting 2 sub-forums will make it easier to post, and easier to keep up with.  It will and should help to really bring our "family/community" closer together etc.

I hope this makes it easier for you all.  Thanks for everything!!!   :)


Josh - I came in too late to chime in on this but you have done the things I would have recommended. Well done and I think this will make the operation of the forum even smoother. Thanks!
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: Cindy on December 19, 2011, 11:09:56 PM
Oops...sorry...I meant to add that it looks a whole lot better now with the changes you've already made, Josh! Thanks!
Title: Re: Sub-forum or not to sub-forum that is the question.......*****UPDATED*****
Post by: dkoloff on December 19, 2011, 11:24:18 PM
BTO and acoustic into the general forum.......depending on growth of forum and subject postings you could always divide back into sub forums.