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StrummingMadMan

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NGD - I have a problem
« on: December 15, 2018, 09:14:27 PM »
So there I am at my favorite guitar store, just jamming away on a few different guitars. Then, boom. Next thing I know I'm driving home and there is a new 414ce V-Class in the back seat. I don't know how these things happen. I love this thing though. It already sounds so pretty. I'll post more and some better pics when I take a real break from playing it. There is a wicked glare in the first one.
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614ce (2015)
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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2018, 10:45:46 PM »
...I don't know how these things happen...

LOL!

Congratulations on your NGD.  Beautiful guitar!
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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2018, 01:24:53 AM »
congrats on the new guitar!!
1995 912C - englemann/eir
2009 xxxv-p - sitka/madagascar
2010 414ce - sitka/ovangkol (made on my wedding day!)
2011 914ce - cedar/eir
2014 martin 000-28 custom - adi/cocobolo
2017 BTO GC 12 fret - lutz/cocobolo
2019 BTO GC 12 fret - cedar/cocobolo
2019 sheeran w03 - cedar/santos rosewood
2019 lowden s35 12 fret - driftwood cedar/cocobolo
2020 lowden s35 12 fret alpine spruce/madagascar
2023 lowden wee wl-35 12 fret - driftwood cedar/madagascar
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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2018, 07:38:07 AM »
Don't you just hate it, when that happens?!  ;)

Very nice, enjoy!
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ClassicRock

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM »
Wow,
Looking at your list of guitars, I really want to learn how this new one compares to the 600, the 800, the Koa etc. Also, you have other 400 guitars, where does V-Class fit in differentiating this guitar from the others. So much to learn...

Congrats and keep on buyin’!

StrummingMadMan

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2018, 03:42:42 PM »
Wow,
Looking at your list of guitars, I really want to learn how this new one compares to the 600, the 800, the Koa etc. Also, you have other 400 guitars, where does V-Class fit in differentiating this guitar from the others. So much to learn...

Congrats and keep on buyin’!

I will try my best to share what I know based on my current stable. Just forgive me because I am not the best at describing what my ears hear.

The 2 414's I have are not really similar in any way. The 2003 has Rosewood b/s and because it is older, it has a very unique sound. It's a lot louder than it should be for it's size (it sounds like a dread) and it has overtones for days. It is a perfect strumming guitar and does alright with flatpicking. The new 414 with ovangkol and v-class is simply amazing.  It's extremely balanced and everything sounds so smooth with it. I've played every style I can think of and this guitar just makes it sound good. I'm not sure if it's overall amazingness can be attributed to the v-class or not, but it is very special for whatever reason. It also feels significantly lighter than any of my other GA's and I definitely notice in an increase in volume compared to my 614.

My 614 is such a great guitar. It is my workhorse. I am impressed by it every time I play it. It has great mids, sparkling highs, and booming lows. It adapts to whatever style I am playing. The 614 is a perfect example of how amazing Andy Powers is as a builder and designer.

My K24 is completely different than all of them. Koa has it's own sound altogether. It sounds and looks beautiful, but it is easily my least played 6-string.

The 810 is exactly what you would expect it to be, although I feel it doesn't get all the credit it should. People always talk about Martin for dreads, but the 810 can more than compete with a D-28 in my opinion.

Then there is my Rockbridge SJ. It's in a league all it's own. Brian Calhoun is amazing and he had me play for him for quite a while, asked me a ton of questions, had me play more, and asked more questions. Then he built that guitar based on the findings. When I commissioned it, I told him that I wanted him to build a guitar he thought would fit my style best. I made only a few small decisions about minor details. I just trusted his experience for that whole build and it paid off huge. I've never played a guitar that sounds as good as this one. I may love it more than kids and I want to be buried with it.

I'm not sure if any of this babble answered your question at all, but feel free to ask anything if you're wondering.
414-L2 (2003)
614ce (2015)
810e DLX (2015)
K24ce (2015)
516e-FLTD (2013)
Gibson J-15 (2016)
Larrivee L-05 (2018)
Larrivee OM-40R (2018)
Martin D-18 (1959) -my grandpa, then dad's guitar
Rockbridge SJ - German Spruce/Cocobolo (2011)

ClassicRock

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2018, 05:15:04 PM »
Nothing further to ask. You did a great job describing them. I’m a little amazed that your K24ce is at the bottom of the heap because my V-Class example holds its own with two great Martin dreads in Guat and Sinker Hog. So, I’m thinking the rest of your brood must be very good indeed.

StrummingMadMan

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2018, 06:27:05 PM »
Nothing further to ask. You did a great job describing them. I’m a little amazed that your K24ce is at the bottom of the heap because my V-Class example holds its own with two great Martin dreads in Guat and Sinker Hog. So, I’m thinking the rest of your brood must be very good indeed.

It's almost entirely because it produces a lower volume than the rest and I rarely plug in. I'd love to hear if yours is louder because of the V-Class
414-L2 (2003)
614ce (2015)
810e DLX (2015)
K24ce (2015)
516e-FLTD (2013)
Gibson J-15 (2016)
Larrivee L-05 (2018)
Larrivee OM-40R (2018)
Martin D-18 (1959) -my grandpa, then dad's guitar
Rockbridge SJ - German Spruce/Cocobolo (2011)

ClassicRock

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2018, 06:38:47 PM »
It is not as loud as my dreads but....it does have that little ol’ plug !

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2018, 07:09:26 AM »
StrummingMadMan, I’m afraid I don’t understand your title? I just can’t seem to see where you have any problems, nice wood combinations, differn’t voices, 6 and 12 string. You are missing a carbon fiber guitar I suppose, but there is still time.
Seriously though, Congrats on a great new guitar. I would think we are a community with a “problem” if that is one!
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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2018, 07:36:50 AM »
Congrats on the new 414. Gotta love that ovangkol!
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1997 Cujo14 - old growth cedar/black walnut
2014 K24e - master grade koa
2018 Custom GA - bear claw sitka spruce/mahogany
2019 614 - torrified sitka spruce/flamed maple
2020 714 - lutz spruce/rosewood

StrummingMadMan

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2018, 12:13:29 PM »
StrummingMadMan, I’m afraid I don’t understand your title? I just can’t seem to see where you have any problems, nice wood combinations, differn’t voices, 6 and 12 string. You are missing a carbon fiber guitar I suppose, but there is still time.
Seriously though, Congrats on a great new guitar. I would think we are a community with a “problem” if that is one!

I'm not sure how I feel about a CF guitar. I love the wood ones so much. In the interest of total transparity. I still haven't even played one yet though.
414-L2 (2003)
614ce (2015)
810e DLX (2015)
K24ce (2015)
516e-FLTD (2013)
Gibson J-15 (2016)
Larrivee L-05 (2018)
Larrivee OM-40R (2018)
Martin D-18 (1959) -my grandpa, then dad's guitar
Rockbridge SJ - German Spruce/Cocobolo (2011)

StrummingMadMan

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2018, 12:14:49 PM »
Congrats on the new 414. Gotta love that ovangkol!

Thank you. I think I'm starting to develop a preference for ovangkol over East Indian Rosewood.
414-L2 (2003)
614ce (2015)
810e DLX (2015)
K24ce (2015)
516e-FLTD (2013)
Gibson J-15 (2016)
Larrivee L-05 (2018)
Larrivee OM-40R (2018)
Martin D-18 (1959) -my grandpa, then dad's guitar
Rockbridge SJ - German Spruce/Cocobolo (2011)

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2018, 12:38:05 PM »
Good for you!  I've ended with 2 guitars as a result of the same experience you described!

Congrats and enjoy!

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Re: NGD - I have a problem
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2018, 12:45:16 PM »
Yes . Congratulations . You re not alone. Same thing happened to me with my latest Taylor, my 214 K dlx . All of the sudden there it was in the back seat  and my wallet felt a little lighter . Enjoy!!!
Steve
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