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2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« on: January 07, 2014, 12:05:05 AM »
I have a 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD Limited Edition Madagasgar I bought used and want to install a Highlander iP-1 UST. The highlander website says to not use a Tusq saddle. I have not yet been able to find the specs for this guitar so I don't know if the saddle is real bone or tusq. Anyone know? Or how can I tell the difference between the two? Thanks ...

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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 12:39:40 AM »
what does the b-string compensation look like on the saddle ?
does it have a "sharp edge", like this
https://www.taylorguitars.com/taylorware/tusq-saddle-acoustic
or, does it have a "softer contour", like this
https://www.taylorguitars.com/taylorware/bone-saddle-acoustic-6-string

unless are you going to add a second jack in order to use either or both pickup systems,
i would suggest unplugging the power supply/output jack & to get an end jack plate such as this -
http://garyhudsonmusic.com/taylor/expression03.htm

that way, if you decide to sell the guitar later on, the ES should be able to be made fully functional again by
reinstalling the power supply/output jack assembly, rather than drilling a second hole through the tail block
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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 09:48:41 AM »
From the factory it's tusq. Mine came used with a bone saddle. I agree with the sharp edges showing the saddle being tusq
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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 07:09:57 AM »
The original saddle is definitely TUSQ.  I have a 716LTD with Maddie  and saved the spec sheet from Taylor when I got her.

Specifications Madagascar Rosewood 700 Series Spring LTDs
©2009 Taylor Guitars. All rights reserved. Prices and specifications subject to change without notice.
Top down: Madagascar rosewood backstrap;
714ce-LTD
Model 716ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD, 712ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD
Body Madagascar Rosewood
Top Sitka Spruce (optional Tobacco Sunburst top - add $200)
Cutaway Venetian
Peghead Indian Rosewood
Finish Gloss
Neck Tropical Mahogany with Satin Finish
Nut Width 1 3/4”
Binding Indian Rosewood
Fretboard Ebony
Inlays 4 mm Mother-of-Pearl Dots
No. of frets 20
Overall Length 41” (716ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD
40 1/2” (712ce-LTD)
Scale Length 25 1/2” (716ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD)
24 7/8” (712ce-LTD)
Body Length 20” (716ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD)
19 1/2” (712ce-LTD)
Body Width 16 1/4” (716ce-LTD)
16” (714ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD)
15” (712ce-LTD)
Body Depth 4 5/8” (716ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD)
4 3/8” (712ce-LTD)
Nut/Saddle TUSQ   :)
Hardware Chrome
Tuners Taylor Gold
Bridge Ebony
Pickguard Tortoise
Electronics Taylor Expression System®
Strings Elixir NANOWEB® Light Gauge (.012-.053):
714ce-LTD, 712ce-LTD; Elixir® NANOWEB®
Medium Gauge (.013-.056): 716ce-LTD, 710ce-LTD
Introduced Spring 2009
Case Brown Hardshell

Find a Dealer www.taylorguitars.com/dealers
Read more about it www.taylorguitars.com
Unique Features Madagascar rosewood backstrap
trimmed with maple and ebony

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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 02:00:01 PM »
Tusq. Here's some of the info I kept about mine:

Supreme tone and playability from Taylor! The Taylor 716ce-LTD acoustic guitar combines the distinctive sound and unique beauty of two great tonewoods in a limited-edition instrument that sounds great onstage and off. The 716ce-LTD includes Madagascar rosewood back and sides, plus a Sitka spruce top. Its easy-to-play body style includes a Venetian cutaway, and the mahogany neck (topped by an ebony fingerboard) is fast and built for hours of fatigue-free fretting. In addition, you get beautiful appointments, such as pearl neck inlays, an abalone soundhole rosette, custom backstrap, and gold hardware on the 716ce-LTD.

Taylor 716CE LTD Features:
Body Style: Grand Sympony GS
Neck: Tropical American Mahogany with Indian Rosewood Headstock Overlay, Pearl Taylor Logo
Madagascar rosewood backstrap trimmed with maple and ebony
Fingerboard: 20 Fret Ebony, Small Pearl Dot Inlay, 15" Radius
Back/Sides: Madagascar Rosewood
Top: Sitka Spruce
Rosette: Abalone
Binding: Indian Rosewood
Pickguard: Tortoise Shell
Bracing: CV
Finish: Gloss
Dimensions
Scale Length: 25 1/2"
Width at Nut: 1 3/4"
Overall Length: 41"
Body Depth: 4 5/8"
Width at Lower Bout: 16 1/4"
Width at Upper Bout: 11 1/2" ?
Weight: 4.8 Lbs ?
Hardware
Bridge: Ebony
Saddle: Tusq
Nut: Tusq
Tuners: Gold Plated Taylor
Electronics: Taylor ES Expression System

Taylor press release from 2009:

Spring is in the air at Taylor Guitars and with that, a limited series of guitars are set to be released at price points to make each strum even sweeter. Featuring exciting and inviting Madagascar rosewood, Tasmanian blackwood and ovangkol tonewoods, each series will have players musically inspired and eager for playtime.
In the 700 Series LTDs, the rich, chocolate hues of Madagascar rosewood enchant the eyes, while the zesty, articulate highs, deep lows and ample dynamic range please the ears. Available as a 710ce-LTD, 712ce-LTD, 714ce-LTD or 716ce-LTD, this Spring Limited series offers exceptional value for a myriad of premium features. Each guitar is carefully crafted from a back and sides of Madagascar rosewood, a Sitka spruce top, and rosewood binding. On the inside, the series includes Taylor’s proprietary CV bracing and patented relief rout for greater tonal resonance. Finished in a high-gloss, the series includes the premium appointments of a Madagascar rosewood backstrap trimmed with maple and ebony, an Indian rosewood peghead overlay, along with Taylor gold tuners and mother-of-pearl dot inlays on the fretboard.
Sounding just as good as they look, the 400 Series Limiteds feature a honey-colored Tasmanian blackwood back and sides and are dramatically accented with creamy maple binding and mini-wedge. With a Sitka spruce top, a sparkling abalone rosette, stylish mother-of-pearl diamond fretboard inlays and a high-gloss finish on the top, back and sides, the blackwood 400 Series Limited Edition is available as a 410ce-LTD, 412ce-LTD, 414ce-LTD or 416ce-LTD. Along with the 700 Series, the 400 Series features a sloping Venetian cutaway and Taylor’s Expression System® for high fidelity plugged-in playing.
Electric players will not be disappointed, as the world’s best-selling acoustic/electric hybrid, the T5, will be offered in a Spring Limited Edition model at an exceptionally low suggested retail price. Featuring Taylor’s propriety pickups and a five-way pickup switch, the T5 offers players plenty of versatility in its range of voices. Finished in an organic, satin top of ovangkol and a body of sapele, the guitar comes ready to play in a Taylor gig bag.
The Spring Limiteds will be released in early April and available at Taylor dealers worldwide.


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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 02:10:41 PM »
That 716ce LTD is a pretty nice guitar I'll bet (wink, wink, nod,nod).  Nice to hear about the new Spring LTD coming out with more madagascar.  That Blackwood sounds interesting also.  Where did you get the information?
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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 06:12:13 PM »
sounds like a quote from wood & steel -
i had a couple of 716ceLTDs because i liked the tone of the first one so much
that when a deal came along to acquire a second, i just couldn't refuse :o

i had a bone nut & saddle put on one, but in the end both had to find new homes :(

there was also a dealer offering a bone saddle & gotoh upgrade on a new Taylors,
but i'm not sure if this offer was available when the spring 09 LTDs came out -
it being a used guitar, it could  have a very inexpensive bone saddle in it that mimics the shape of
the tusq one, but it is very hard to tell without a pic what kind of saddle the OP might have in the guitar
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Re: 2009 Taylor 716ce-LTD saddle ... is it bone or Tusq ?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 08:03:43 PM »
That 716ce LTD is a pretty nice guitar I'll bet (wink, wink, nod,nod).  Nice to hear about the new Spring LTD coming out with more madagascar.  That Blackwood sounds interesting also.  Where did you get the information?

Oh yeah no, pardon the confusion, that was copied from a 2009 Taylor press release, maybe Wood & Steel, not quite sure where I got it from. I'm sure I love the guitar though, it's become my "go to" performance ax. Can't believe I found someone willing to sell theirs  ;)