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My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed-UPDATE
« on: April 12, 2013, 02:31:25 PM »
Well, I heard from the Taylor buyer at Elderly Instruments today.
Good news, my new 512ce arrived from Taylor.
Bad news, it had a flaw.

It had what looked to be about .75" of glue seepage between the neck and the fretboard (thin, light colored line), along the neck binding at the 2nd fret, on the top of the neck (where your thumb would be).  It is under the finish.  Given the dark binding, it really stood out.  There's nothing that the Elderly luthiers could do to "correct" it, and if they tried, it would probably be noticeable, in their opinion.  So, they didn't want to touch it (nor would I want them to).

The Taylor buyer at Elderly said that if this was an Elderly stock guitar, they would reject it.  He's really surprised Taylor let this one come through like that.  He said Taylors are usually clean. 

I'm pretty particular about my instruments and that would have bugged the heck out me every time I played it, if I had accepted it.  Given I'm paying what I'm paying for this guitar, I found it to be unacceptable and asked for it to be returned and a new 512ce be ordered in its place.  Elderly was VERY apologetic and supportive of my decision.  They want me to be 100% happy with the guitar.

To say I'm disappointed, is an understatement. :'(  I do not fault Elderly at all, and have always been impressed by their strict standards.  I have not lost any respect for Taylor either.  These things sometimes happen in life.  It managed to sneak through.  I think God is testing my patience.  If this is the worst thing that happens to me, then I'm a pretty lucky gal! 

So, my wait continues.  I guess this will make my 512ce even more appreciated, when I do eventually get it. 

Thanks for letting me vent. :(  Think I'll go play my 414....it will make me happy again.  :)

« Last Edit: May 08, 2013, 01:14:31 PM by TaylorGirl »
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2013, 02:35:36 PM »
Well you know how it goes.....if the answer is to wait, then that means there is something even better coming soon.  Good things come to those who wait!!
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2013, 03:03:07 PM »
Sorry to hear about your misfortune TaylorGirl.  Maybe Taylor will rush you another one so you won't have to wait toooo long.
I think you did the correct thing by not accepting it, it would have bothered me as well.
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 03:13:52 PM »
Really sorry to hear that. All will work out in the end. I know what it's like to hear it's going to be a little longer. Hang in there.
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 03:44:01 PM »
Sorry to hear this ... and I know it is a big disappointment ... however, it sounds like you are taking it in stride as much as you can ... perhaps the replacement will be even better somehow ... hoping for the best ...
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 04:06:59 PM »
Sorry to hear about this TG but know that Taylor will make this right.

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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 04:24:17 PM »
Thanks for all your supportive comments. I appreciate them all.
Sorry to hear about this TG but know that Taylor will make this right.
Ted, you have insights that us customers don't have, but I assumed this would be true. It's nice coming from you.  :)
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 08:05:53 PM »
Ouch! That hurts! I'm sure the replacement will be well worth the wait. Hang in there!
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 09:31:04 PM »
Really sorry to hear that - but hopefully that means an even better guitar than you imagined.

Waiting is never easy, especially when you've been that close. Be strong.
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 02:14:46 AM »
Bad news, it had a flaw.

I think God is testing my patience.  If this is the worst thing that happens to me, then I'm a pretty lucky gal! 
Gotta love it when we get to a place like that, huh?  You're handling it well, TaylorGirl!
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 12:21:25 PM »
Sorry to hear of this setback TG, tough waiting in the first place but then having to wait longer is a bummer!!  It should be worth it tho', the mahogany 500s are really beautiful.

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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 01:55:12 PM »
Thanks again everyone.....it's nice how supportive fellow Taylorites are on this forum.
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 10:01:57 AM »
It's good Elderly let you know before you made that long ride. A li'l sump sumpin' happened at Taylor quality control. Maybe it came through late on a Friday afternoon. Hey, the one meant for you's still coming!
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2013, 10:52:50 AM »
It's good Elderly let you know before you made that long ride. A li'l sump sumpin' happened at Taylor quality control. Maybe it came through late on a Friday afternoon. Hey, the one meant for you's still coming!
Elderly has good quality control. Yes, we are all surprised this guitar made it through Taylor's QC. But, it did and now I am confident they will do me right. I'm sure they'll be discussing the issue once they get that guitar back. It wasn't huge, but surely not like Taylor. I'm hoping, when this is all said and done, I'll be able to report how well Taylor handled it.
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Re: My 512ce NGD On Hold - Guitar Flawed
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 07:33:05 PM »
Maybe they'll load you up with some nice freebies as an apology.
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