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Title: 112ce-S
Post by: Toucan256 on July 19, 2023, 10:02:19 AM
Anyone else seen this new model on Taylor's website? I thinks it says it's  going to be a limited edition.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: jpmist on July 19, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
Just looked it up and wow, at that price point it ought to fly out of the stores. I expected it to have a low-end vibe cosmetically, but Taylor didn't skimp on the details. This would be a nice "first nice guitar" for many. If it were a 12 fret I'd go find one to try out.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: Toucan256 on July 19, 2023, 04:59:56 PM
Just looked it up and wow, at that price point it ought to fly out of the stores. I expected it to have a low-end vibe cosmetically, but Taylor didn't skimp on the details. This would be a nice "first nice guitar" for many. If it were a 12 fret I'd go find one to try out.
I'm  with you on the 12 fret idea. I  have a 312ce 12 fret, but it would be nice to have a 100 or even a 200 series in a 12 fret to travel with that I wouldn't have to worry as much. I still would like to get my hands on the current offering. I might be a owner.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: DennisG on July 19, 2023, 07:50:59 PM
Taylor sometimes moves in mysterious ways.  From the very beginning of my awareness of the company, I've wondered why they didn't offer a 112, a smaller guitar that would be perfect for beginners.  Many years later, they released the Academy 12, which I figured finally filled that niche.  And now this announcement -- a guitar that seems very similar to the Academy 12?  What am I not understanding about this?
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: Earl on July 20, 2023, 09:45:12 AM
Ditto, Dennis.  I am puzzled too.  With the A12 already in the line up, what need is the 112ce-S meant to address?  Color me confused.... :-\
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: DennisG on July 20, 2023, 07:24:11 PM
Ditto, Dennis.  I am puzzled too.  With the A12 already in the line up, what need is the 112ce-S meant to address?  Color me confused.... :-\

I'll be honest ... I think Taylor has added nothing but confusion to their lineup with the Academy and American Dream series.  It's hard to know what's in any single series that isn't already offered in another one by a different model name.  Really, life was much simpler when we had 100-900 series with annual Spring and Fall limiteds.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: jricc on July 20, 2023, 08:43:50 PM
Just looked it up and wow, at that price point it ought to fly out of the stores. I expected it to have a low-end vibe cosmetically, but Taylor didn't skimp on the details. This would be a nice "first nice guitar" for many. If it were a 12 fret I'd go find one to try out.
I agree, I think this is a nice addition to the 100 Series. I hope it stays in the series. I could see getting one at some point as a backup to my AD22E
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: jricc on July 20, 2023, 09:37:01 PM
Strange, just looked at the specs of the 112ce on the Taylor site.  It says the the scale length is 25 1/2`.  The only Grand Concert in the Taylor line that I'm aware of having a long scale.  Unless of course it's a typo.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: donlyn on July 21, 2023, 12:15:20 AM
For what it's worth, my all-mahogany (top, B&S, neck) 512ce L10 Grand Concert has a Taylor 'standard' length 25.5" scale too. Believe that Fall Ltd run all did.

My spruce/rosewood 412e-R Grand Concert is a Taylor 'short' scale.

There is no such thing as an industry wide definition of what a 'standard' scale or 'short' scale really is. Each builder is different in the lengths.

And I believe some manufacturers do make 'long' scale instruments. But a long scale is not the same as a standard scale. In the Taylor line-up, 25.5" is the 'standard' scale length.

Be well and play well,

Don
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: Earl on July 21, 2023, 12:38:40 PM
The Taylor standard scale is 25.5" for most models.  Years ago the GC bodies went to 24-7/8" as their standard.  You can certainly find a variety of outliers and custom orders that deviate from this common specification.  As I trend toward shorter scale guitars these days 24-7/8" has appeal, but I am unlikely to add any new guitars with standard scale lengths.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: Frettingflyer on July 21, 2023, 01:32:02 PM
I had the same thought as above in that it is somewhat duplicative. I was a bit dismayed to get an email from Taylor in the last two weeks about the “all new” GS Mini, which, from what I could tell was exactly the same as the original Mini in 2010. Was I wrong about that? Great guitar, but to call it all new is a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: jricc on July 22, 2023, 12:39:12 AM
An Acoustic Guitar Forum member wrote a positive review of the 112.  I asked him to check the scale length and it is 24 7/8.  He checked with Taylor and they acknowledged the mistyped scale length in the specs and said it would be corrected.
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: donlyn on July 23, 2023, 11:54:57 AM
Slightly off topic, but it does involve the 100 series.

Some years ago, right before covid, I was in the Boston GC (on Boylston St) looking around. Happened to notice a used 114 GA for a good price. Was playing it when another asked to try it. Got it back about 15 minutes later, as the customer opted for a GS mini. So I played it some more and left the store later.

Not a fan of the GA models, but in hindsight I should have gotten it. It was a GA I enjoyed playing and sounded really nice. And I probably could have used another laminate/layered body guitar for the really humid days. Oh yeah, it was in really good shape. Might have been a buyer's remorse kind of thing on the trader's part.

Point is, Taylor guitars are nothing to sneeze at. Including the 100s.

Be well and play well,

Don
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Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: Edward on July 23, 2023, 02:33:27 PM
I am glad that Taylor added the GC to the 100-series line.  I had always thought they should have had it in there, so this is far too long overdue, imo.  But as already been said above, I don't quite understand the Academy and the overlap between, but that's a mere aside.  The GC is a fabulous guitar size, and an excellent guitar in the 100 lineup.

Edward
Title: Re: 112ce-S
Post by: jricc on July 23, 2023, 10:33:25 PM
I am glad that Taylor added the GC to the 100-series line.  I had always thought they should have had it in there, so this is far too long overdue, imo.  But as already been said above, I don't quite understand the Academy and the overlap between, but that's a mere aside.  The GC is a fabulous guitar size, and an excellent guitar in the 100 lineup.

Edward
A big plus 1 on this ^^^^^^