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Title: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Rogue picker on April 15, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
I just bought a Taylor 110 and love the sound (I've been playing for seven years and all of it on a Rogue brand cheap-o). Playing it I noticed that it said made in Mexico, way back in the body.  I love how it feels and plays so it really doesn't bother me, but I was concerned that if I mentioned it to other players if they would have a rep for not being a "real" Taylor.  The Martin x series I played at my local shop didn't sound good to me and when I asked about it to my guitar guy he commented tha they aren't " real" Martins. Exause they aren't made in the USA .  Should I expect the same treatment?  I know that my 110 sounds way better than the x Martin does.  What do u think?
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: jalbert on April 15, 2012, 06:04:13 PM
Yes, they are real Taylors. The factory they're made in is in Tecate, which is very close to the border as is El Cajon on the U.S. side. Traffic permitting, it's about an hour's drive away which allows for a lot of interaction between the two. As far as I know the Tecate factory is wholly owned by Taylor and produces no other brands, as opposed to the OEM setup that many manufacturers in East Asia have. I don't think you could find a difference other than the label on a 100/200 series made in the U.S. versus one made in Mexico. Therefore the difference between Mexican and U.S. Taylors is one of specifications and price, not quality.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Taylor339 on April 15, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Absolutely not.  I will PM you my address so you can get rid of it and and get a real Taylor.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Captain Jim on April 15, 2012, 08:32:58 PM
Hey Rogue,

Welcome aboard.  I have a 114ce that I truly enjoy.  Nice finish, great tone, plays beautifully.  In fact, when I bought this one, I tried a bunch of Taylors, all different series.  This guitar sounded and played the best of all those I tried.  The salesman told me, "We have one new in the box, if you'd like that one."

"No thanks.  I played this one, I like this one."

It says Taylor on the headstock, I registered it with Taylor, paid real US money for it.  The labor to make it may have been less expensive, but it is a Taylor.  If someone else has a problem with that... well, that's their problem.   ;)

Enjoy your new Taylor.

Best wishes,
Captain Jim
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Rogue picker on April 15, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
After playing a Rogue my Dad bought me for 50 bucks ten years ago (a guitar i will cherish for the rest of my life), my Taylor plays like magic.  I'm left handed so I had to pick carefully and special order the lefty version of what i played in the store.  It was such a big purchase in my life (a reward for getting my first teaching job after years of work) I was a little worried that I would have to defend myself to haters out there and my experience with the X series Martin shook me.  The owner of the store told me not to buy it because it wasnt made in America and wasnt a real Martin.  After playing I got it because it didnt sound good, but all the Taylors sounded the same when I played them.  Very happy with my 110 and plan to cherish it for years to come!  Enjoy yours!
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: mgap on April 15, 2012, 11:19:14 PM
You will not hear that they are not real Taylors here.  I once had a 110 and it played real nice, built to Taylors standards, yes it was a good guitar.  Yours will serve you well for years to come.

I have had MIM Fender Telecasters and they were very well built also.  Some people prefer them.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: andyi5 on April 16, 2012, 01:25:35 AM
The prejudice against US guitar brands that are outsourced for manufacture overseas goes back a long long time. Given that it was always rooted in the idea of a lower priced version and that quality could be hit and miss, there must have been some truth in it. My Strat is an example where perception alone makes it far more desirable as a US model, although in fact Fender have made some terrific instruments out of the Far East and Mexico. But try and convince some folks of that and they may snigger.

Sometimes you'll see examples of an older Baby Taylor etc on ebay and if it's US made you'll often see this listed as though it was a premium feature. But personally I think the close proximity of Taylor's Tecate factory to their US one means that it's nothing to worry about at all.

Interesting though how some folks have mentioned they have seen quality control issues on the MIM Martins.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Nicky Midss on April 16, 2012, 02:16:09 AM
there is a difference between USA 100/200s and mexican ones. before 2007, USA 100s/200s were solid wood. now its laminate.

i had a 214e-G. it was incredibly bright. the action was great, but just too bright. i also did want a USA model, so i bought a used 2006 314. love my decision. the mahogony warms the tone up a bit so its not full blown bright.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Herb Hunter on April 16, 2012, 08:38:34 AM
there is a difference between USA 100/200s and mexican ones. before 2007, USA 100s/200s were solid wood. now its laminate.

i had a 214e-G. it was incredibly bright. the action was great, but just too bright. i also did want a USA model, so i bought a used 2006 314 for 1k. love my decision. the mahogony warms the tone up a bit so its not full blown bright.


Technically, you may be correct but the implication is misleading. The switch from solid to laminated back and sides had nothing to do with the change of manufacture location.


The Tecate plant, if memory serves, was originally opened to produce guitar cases. When production of the Taylor Baby was moved from El Cajon, California to Tecate, Mexico (less than 40 miles away) in order to make room at the El Cajon plant for T5 production, not only were no changes made to the guitar but some of the personnel involved in Baby production were transferred to the Tecate plant. Other employees shuttle between the two locations. Eventually, production of the 100 and 200 series guitars were transferred to Tecate but any changes had to those two series had nothing to do with the transfer.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: TaylorGirl on April 16, 2012, 08:42:33 AM
They are definitely real Taylors!

Got me thinking.....with GM outsourcing to other countries, are those GM cars truely GM?  We have a John Deere farm tractor....I know they have factories in several other countries....are they really John Deere tractors?  With today's world market, you could say that about pretty much everything.....computers, clothing, instruments, etc....

If people make that claim that your guitar is not a Taylor, consider it jealousy. 
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: mgap on April 16, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
The Taylors made in Tecate are made according to Bob and his designers manufacturing standards.  They don't make up their own rules their.

As once stated about MIM Fenders, MIM Fenders are made by Mexicans in Mexico and Fenders made in the USA are made by Mexicans in the USA.  All are made by Fenders standards.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: BigSkyTaylorPlayer on April 16, 2012, 09:10:09 AM
I guess that depends on how one defines a "real Taylor".  Personally I really don't get people who think like that.

I love my Mini and part of that is BC of the price point - if I was going to spend more I would have bought another full size guitar (probably will anyway......LOL) but if the Mini was made in the US it would cost more than $500 and I would not have one.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Edward on April 16, 2012, 10:43:47 AM
Of all the major guit manufactures like Fender, Gibby, PRS, Martin, Taylor, I feel it is the mothership's own attention to its non-US mfg materials and workmanship that makes all the difference: not so much origin, but how much energy the home-front wants to pay abroad.

As personal, anecdotal, opinions go, the MIM Fenders are ok ...owned several in the past and still own two today; not bad, but not superlative guits.  Same with Epiphone ...nice, but just ok.  Sigmas ...meh.  PRS SEs are seriously nice, IMHO: it seems like Paul pays really close attention to these as if he has frequent-flier miles to Korea ;)  Which brings me to Taylor: Bob has repeatedly stated in print that he is hands-on in Mexico and goes there often.  Call it good management, call it convenience/proximity to ElCajon, call it smart, whatever; but IMHO it makes a big difference when the main dude shows up often to keep his fingers in the mix.  All this to say that I personally feel Taylor's MIM guitars suffer no drawbacks that I can tell, at least not that I have ever felt nor heard.  That's a big deal for me.  I cannot say the same for the aforementioned makers, with the best of them being PRS for me.  Just my observations/ownership over these many years, mind you, so take with heaping grains of sodium chloride :D

Edward
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: maritimer on April 16, 2012, 11:23:09 AM
With Taylor's attention to detail in manufacturing excellence, it matters not where it is made but more with how the process is managed and most importantly, the quality of the materials used.  Taylor, IMHO, with its strong focus on wood sourcing and utilization, has this nailed down.  Having said all of that, I have a NGD out for delivery status awaiting a T5 Classic that was made in the Mexican plant...  Tonight I will be able to contribute first hand.  This will be my 7th Taylor and first made in the Mexican facility.  I know the quality will equal what I have experienced to date.  My only negative from the Taylor perspective was the 1st version of the ES system....  8)

Enjoy your guitar!  If it is your fist Taylor, have no worries, you will own another in the future!
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: cigarfan on April 16, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
I think everything is relative. Consumers will evaluate according to their own experience. I agree with TaylorGirl above, if anyone is claiming because a Taylor is non-USA built, it's bad or flawed ... gotta be jealousy or lack of esteem maybe. I cannot remember hearing consumer complaints that Tecate made product was inferior in any way. Exactly the opposite. And I attribute that entirely to the Taylor hands-on approach at all production facilities. Sounds like we can even extend that to the new saw-mill in Africa as well.

I own a Tecate built Taylor GSmini. Unbelievably good for such a small package. It sounds like a Taylor! Doesn't matter where it was made ... in my hands it plays great and sounds like a Taylor! I don't need anything more than that. If someone wants to claim it is somehow not really a Taylor, let em' ... won't effect the way I feel about mine. That is their problem.


Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: thebigz on April 16, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
When I took the tour last January, the guy said that the Tecate plant actually has more sophisticated machinery because they fine tune it there and then it makes its El Cajon appearance. 
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: mgap on April 16, 2012, 07:42:09 PM
I taker back everything I said about the Tecate factory guitars, I was wrong, they really are not Taylors.  So what you should do is send it to me and you go get yourself a real Talyor made in the USA. 

Well it is something to consider, I would take it for you-no charge. ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Steve on April 17, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
I own a Tecate built Taylor GSmini. Unbelievably good for such a small package. It sounds like a Taylor! Doesn't matter where it was made ...

I own one of the US Made GS Mini prototypes. You'd be hard-pressed to tell it from its Mexican counterpart.

I'd provide a photo, but it's on a sort of permenant loan to a friend in Tennessee...
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: cigarfan on April 17, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
.... but it's on a sort of permanent loan to a friend in Tennessee...

LOL  ;) Been there!
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: e8n on April 17, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
After playing a Rogue my Dad bought me for 50 bucks ten years ago (a guitar i will cherish for the rest of my life), my Taylor plays like magic.  I'm left handed so I had to pick carefully and special order the lefty version of what i played in the store.  It was such a big purchase in my life (a reward for getting my first teaching job after years of work) I was a little worried that I would have to defend myself to haters out there and my experience with the X series Martin shook me.  The owner of the store told me not to buy it because it wasnt made in America and wasnt a real Martin.  After playing I got it because it didnt sound good, but all the Taylors sounded the same when I played them.  Very happy with my 110 and plan to cherish it for years to come!  Enjoy yours!

After reading many forums and messages about guitars, guitar playing, guitar choices etc over the years it is refreshing to see someone with the right attitude about their cool new guitar.  I'm glad you love it and don't EVER let anyone tell you differently!

Congrats and welcome to the Taylor world and the forum.  I hope your next 7 years with your Taylor are as good as they have been with your Rogue.

-Dave
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: andyi5 on April 17, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
I own a Tecate built Taylor GSmini. Unbelievably good for such a small package. It sounds like a Taylor! Doesn't matter where it was made ...

I own one of the US Made GS Mini prototypes. You'd be hard-pressed to tell it from its Mexican counterpart.

I'd provide a photo, but it's on a sort of permenant loan to a friend in Tennessee...

One day that'd be worth a fortune if you marketed it the right way. "Ultra rare US model" and "exquisite tone" in the same sentence...   ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: jjrpilot-admin on April 17, 2012, 06:30:34 PM
They are definitely real Taylors!

Got me thinking.....with GM outsourcing to other countries, are those GM cars truely GM?  We have a John Deere farm tractor....I know they have factories in several other countries....are they really John Deere tractors?  With today's world market, you could say that about pretty much everything.....computers, clothing, instruments, etc....

If people make that claim that your guitar is not a Taylor, consider it jealousy.

Excellent post!  ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Steve on April 18, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
One day that'd be worth a fortune if you marketed it the right way. "Ultra rare US model" and "exquisite tone" in the same sentence...   ;D

Nah, I'd give it to my buddy before I ever sold it...
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Captain Jim on April 18, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
One day that'd be worth a fortune if you marketed it the right way. "Ultra rare US model" and "exquisite tone" in the same sentence...   ;D

Nah, I'd give it to my buddy before I ever sold it...

Sounds like maybe you already did... tough decision: keep the friend, lose the guitar.  Yeah, I'm gonna miss that friend.  ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: egkor on April 18, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
I never thought about it (or cared) until you asked the question.

Every Taylor is a "real" Taylor and if someone thinks otherwise its their problem.

-Gary K
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Steve on April 18, 2012, 11:33:24 AM
Sounds like maybe you already did... tough decision: keep the friend, lose the guitar.  Yeah, I'm gonna miss that friend.  ;D

Nah, he's a good dude.

Here's a post I made back in February about him and my GS Mini:

This is my GS Mini in the hands of my good friend in Chattanooga, Holt Webb:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395926_10150535433841499_541766498_10586408_979071342_n.jpg)

Now, the story behind his getting it:

Holt started a project a couple years ago called "Vanishing America" (http://www.vanishingamerica.net/ (http://www.vanishingamerica.net/)). He's an amazing photographer, and his idea was to drive around the country, for five years, photographing things which would be gone in the next couple of generations. A very generous individual in San Diego bought him a motorhome and a Land Rover, and paid for both of them to be converted to biofuel.

When he would come to San Diego, he would park his motorhome up near the zoo. I would drive over and take him out for sushi, then we'd go back to the motorhome and have a couple beers. Well, one night, I pulled his guitar out of its case. It was an older Washburn. The action was horrible, and the strings were so old I thought I'd need a tetanus shot after playing it. The case also took up a lot of room in the motorhome. So, I got his parent's address from him (he was still travelling then) and told him I was going to send him something. I sent him the guitar, with the ES Go installed.

It's one of the GS Mini prototypes that was built in San Diego.

Sadly, Holt's project costs about five grand a month to keep on the road, and he just wasn't able to sustain it. He manages a bar in Tennessee now, but wants to put the project back on the road one day. I know, if I ever hit the lottery, Holt's going to be back on the road for a long time, because I'll give him a great big pile of money...
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: CodeBlueEMT on April 18, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
 I wouldn't have a problem buying a MIM Taylor, other than a lack of funds.  8)
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: remshooter on April 18, 2012, 10:51:50 PM
Every Taylor is a "real" Taylor and if someone thinks otherwise its their problem.

-Gary K

(thumbsup)  ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Bigdogjer on April 19, 2012, 02:39:49 AM
The Martin X series is not a guitar of questionable quality because it is made in Mexico. It is a guitar of questionable quality because of the matierals used in making it (HPL--High Pressure Laminate, i.e., baked goo). If this guitar retailed for 300 or less, it perhaps should/would be considered for a low price entry guitar. I believe the lowest of that series retails for more than twice that price. I think Martin may be considering manufacturing their 15 series guitars in Mexico, if they haven't already. They do manufacture all of their strings there now.
Obviously, Martin makes some great guitars, but Taylors' entry and intermediate series are, IMO, far superior. I played some of the Martin 16's before buying my DN3 ( Oh, my Lordy, it's mine!) and, well, I think you can tell which one I thought was  the best.
Now, those HD28's.....
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: zipzapp29 on April 19, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
IMO of course...

If the guitar is Bob Taylors design, made in a building owned by Taylor, by employees paid by Taylor, i dont care if Umpa-Loompas are producing it in a Galaxy far far away. Its unequivocally a Taylor  ;D
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: andyi5 on April 19, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
The Martin X series is not a guitar of questionable quality because it is made in Mexico. It is a guitar of questionable quality because of the matierals used in making it (HPL--High Pressure Laminate, i.e., baked goo). If this guitar retailed for 300 or less, it perhaps should/would be considered for a low price entry guitar. I believe the lowest of that series retails for more than twice that price. I think Martin may be considering manufacturing their 15 series guitars in Mexico, if they haven't already. They do manufacture all of their strings there now.
Obviously, Martin makes some great guitars, but Taylors' entry and intermediate series are, IMO, far superior. I played some of the Martin 16's before buying my DN3 ( Oh, my Lordy, it's mine!) and, well, I think you can tell which one I thought was  the best.
Now, those HD28's.....

Yep, I was shocked to see a Little Martin recently on ebay with some damage to that supposedly impervious HPL. The guitar had obviously been dropped or banged hard and a corner of the back had chipped right off like a plastic toy!
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Edward on April 19, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
Just to add a bit of perspective here: non-US Taylors get users' respect and equal kudos because the material and workmanship are of equally high standards.  The moment Taylor passes guitars that are less-than-US-quality, then folks should rightfully call them on it. 

As I had mentioned previously, I have equal respect for Taylor's made in Mexico guits because they are on-par; no accident, this.  Witness Fender's MIM or Epiphones.  Now before someone accuses me of bashing these guits, be clear I am not; they are decent guitars that serve the lower-end niche.  But make no mistake: the materials and general quality of MIMs and MI-China (or Indonesia) are not to the Standards of their more costly US counterparts.  For whatever reasons, PRS' "SE" line from Korea is a far closer approximation to their US products' standards.  All this IMHO, of course, but all borne out of my rampant GAS attacks (  ;)  ) over the decades.  But the market seems to bear out my findings, so I don't think I am far from the mark.

All this rambling really to say "Huge Kudos" to Taylor for making the obvious effort and spending the capital to ensure that their MIMs are spot-on.  After all, it is far easier (dare I say profitable) to let one's import line slip into something less, as many other makers clearly have done.

Edward
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: remshooter on April 19, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
I own one of each.  Like them both and they both sound great!!
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: pacmktg on May 30, 2012, 05:00:44 PM
I just took the factory tour last week and one of the things I found most impressive was that some of the employees that worked at the El Cajon facility and coming in from Tecate each day to work, when they opened the plant in Tecate, they went to the new plant as supervisors and kept their same US wages.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Satsuki on May 31, 2012, 01:54:23 PM
Yes, they are real Taylor's. They are just over priced.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Herb Hunter on May 31, 2012, 03:02:32 PM
Yes, they are real Taylor's. They are just over priced.


If the market decides what is overpriced rather than the individual, then Tecate made Taylors, given their selling rate, are not overpriced.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Satsuki on June 04, 2012, 11:24:48 AM
For a Laminate guitar with a solid top, they are over priced! That's my opinion when I look at the Market and the current price of Guitars and their construction, they are over priced. I would never recommend one to someone looking for a guitar in that price range.




please see rule #1 & 2
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Captain Jim on June 04, 2012, 12:16:29 PM
So, I guess you won't be looking for a part-time job in a guitar shop, huh?  ;D 

The question here wasn't "overpriced", but rather the quality of the guitars made a bit further south.  For those who don't have the discretionary income, any guitar might seem overpriced.  Each consumer has to make his/her own decision about how/where to spend their $$.  Seems that a lot of folks feel the whole Taylor line is worth the cost.

Of course, that's just another opinion.  ;)

Best wishes,
Captain Jim
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: MR XXXXX on June 04, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
For a Laminate guitar with a solid top, they are over priced! That's my opinion when I look at the Market and the current price of Guitars and their construction, they are over priced. I would never recommend one to someone looking for a guitar in that price range.




please see rule #1 & 2

Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Satsuki on June 04, 2012, 02:17:19 PM
If the Emperor has no Clothes I'm not afraid to say it. There are a lot of guitars that I feel give you more bang for your buck than the Taylor's. I would recommend an Eastman, or a Seagull or several other guitars. I wouldn't buy a guitar just because it has a bolt on neck.  I have several Taylor's and will continue to own Taylor's but I would never recommend one to someone in the $1,000.00 price point unless it was a 300 and up series.




please see rule #1
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: e8n on June 04, 2012, 02:24:41 PM
If the Emperor has no Clothes I'm not afraid to say it. There are a lot of guitars I feel that give you more bang for your buck than the Taylor's. I would recommend an Eastman, or a Seagull or several other guitars. I wouldn't buy a guitar just because it has a bolt on neck.  I have several Taylor's and will continue to own Taylor's but I would never recommend one to someone in the $1,000.00 price point unless it was a 300 and up series.

A blanket statement really doesn't work here.  There are some great Eastman's and Blueridge's out there in the price range (I have not played a Seagull that I really loved) but they aren't Taylor's.  What I mean by that is that they have their own sound, which is a lot more to the Martin side of things than the Taylor side of things.  If you are looking for something that sounds like a Taylor, a 1xx or 2xx is your best option.  If you are just looking for a guitar, any guitar, you are correct in saying there are better values out there.

It all depends on what you are looking/listening for.

-Dave




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Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Herb Hunter on June 04, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
For a Laminate guitar with a solid top, they are over priced! That's my opinion when I look at the Market and the current price of Guitars and their construction, they are over priced. I would never recommend one to someone looking for a guitar in that price range.




please see rule #1 & 2


Whether the entry level Taylor guitars are overpriced or not is a matter of opinion. When I am asked to recommend guitars in the $500 to $800 price range, I unhesitatingly suggest the Taylors you consider overpriced.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Satsuki on June 04, 2012, 03:26:21 PM
Good you recommend what you want to and I will do the same. People have a tendency to go crazy if someone speaks ill of the 100 or 200 series Taylor's so I'm use to it.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: Cindy on June 04, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Let's get back on topic. We aren't here to post derogatory comments about Taylors so let's please be clear on that.

Satuski, you are allowed to express your opinion, but there is a very fine line here. This isn't a place to talk negatively about Taylors. You've expressed your opinion, and many others aren't going to agree with you. Please man-up and accept the comments.

Here's an example of how problems start...someone states their opinion, and it happens to differ quite a bit from the opinion of the majority. Those other members come along and disagree, but now the OP doesn't like being disagreed with, so the OP starts hammering away whenever others come along stating their own feelings. This creates more and more animosity...

Satuski, you won't recommend the 100-200 series guitars. Okay...fine. Now please let others vent their own feelings. Anyone in this position doesn't need to keep defending himself/herself by hammering away and reposting the same info over and over.

Let's please get back on topic.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: TaylorGirl on June 04, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Thanks Cindy.
Title: Re: Are Mexican Taylors real Taylors?
Post by: mgap on June 04, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
For a Laminate guitar with a solid top, they are over priced! That's my opinion when I look at the Market and the current price of Guitars and their construction, they are over priced. I would never recommend one to someone looking for a guitar in that price range.




please see rule #1 & 2


Whether the entry level Taylor guitars are overpriced or not is a matter of opinion. When I am asked to recommend guitars in the $500 to $800 price range, I unhesitatingly suggest the Taylors you consider overpriced.

I owned a Taylor 110 it was a very nice sounding guitar.  I tried many other guitars in the same price range.  I choose the Taylor and it was my first Taylor, I had no preference at the time, I just liked it better.